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**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

Wow, what has happened to team green's software quality control? Used to be that nvidia drivers were reliable and AMD drivers were problematic, this seems in reverse at the moment. I bought a 5090 to drive my 2x 4k 240Hz oleds and here are the issues I have:

- nvidia drivers simply cannot drive both screens at 240hz without kernel level exceptions, often crashing most games, and sometimes windows (DSC disabled, both screens connected at 80Gpbs over DP 2.1)
- nvidia container app service, when left running it randomly causes massive amounts of desktop display performance degredation, mouse stutter, ocassional windows blue screen
- bugs with handling Windows scaling, testing a different scaling value can randomly crash the card and windows.

Awful experience going back to Nvidia, realy just awful. The worst part is, everything is perfect with a single screen :(
 
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Cenuij said:
Wow, what has happened to team green's software quality control? Used to be that nvidia drivers were reliable and AMD drivers were problematic, this seems in reverse at the moment. I bought a 5090 to drive my 2x 4k 240Hz oleds and here are the issues I have:

- nvidia drivers simply cannot drive both screens at 240hz without kernel level exceptions, often crashing most games, and sometimes windows (DSC disabled, both screens connected at 80Gpbs over DP 2.1)
- nvidia container app service, when left running it randomly causes massive amounts of desktop display performance degredation, mouse stutter, ocassional windows blue screen
- bugs with handling Windows scaling, testing a different scaling value can randomly crash the card and windows.

Awful experience going back to Nvidia, realy just awful. The worst part is, everything is perfect with a single screen :(
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At least it works fine with one screen. You can rule out hardware issues. Maybe open up a thread on the Nvidia forums and see if anyone has any ideas.
 
opethdisciple said:
At least it works fine with one screen. You can rule out hardware issues. Maybe open up a thread on the Nvidia forums and see if anyone has any ideas.
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Well, spoke too soon... after a day or two of no issues problems are returning, I just found this thread: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...hread-for-black-screenfreezing-for-5000-seri/


So many posts there show the same symptoms as I'm having, but here's the rub - most of the problems posted _could_ be because of bad hardware, or hardware _related_ issues; but some of them equally could be down to driver issues. This is going to be long and painful to figure out and I don't know at what point I'm just going to think about returning the card because as things stand it doesn't seem fit for purpose whether that's software OR hardware.
 
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Well, spoke too soon... after a day or two of no issues problems are returning, I just found this thread: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...hread-for-black-screenfreezing-for-5000-seri/


So many posts there show the same symptoms as I'm having, but here's the rub - most of the problems posted _could_ be because of bad hardware, or hardware _related_ issues; but some of them equally could be down to driver issues. This is going to be long and painful to figure out and I don't know at what point I'm just going to think about returning the card because as things stand it doesn't seem fit for purpose whether that's software OR hardware.
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Narrowed this down a little bit, I seem to have two problems, one driver related and the other could be either card or motherboard of a bit of both

- changing windows scaling seems to still occasionally crash the card, with any version of drivers back to 576 or something like that, didn't test eariler version as this is too time consuming, left it on recommended 150% which seems to work if I leave it alone
- the previous crashes that were related to driving both screens at 240Hz are becasuse the PCIe slot was not consistently booting with the cards native gen5. Sometimes it's even set to gen 1.1 or gen 2

I'd say the PCIe issue much more likely to be the board (MSI carbon), I've every slot used bar the m.2 slot that will bifurcate the lanes with the PCIe main slot. Could be noise (because it _seems_ that spread spectrum modulation helps negotiate the slot with gen4/5 more often than not), could also just be crap PCB (either card or board) or a BIOS bug. Either way this is not looking good, because If I can't avoid intermittent booting to PCIe gen1/2 then either the board, the card, or both are duffers, imo.
 
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FWIW, MGS Delta, Cronos: The New Dawn, and now Silent Hill F, all playing flawlessly on the September the 10th drivers for my 4070 :)
It does seem like it's only the 5XXX series with issues - to date i've not had any driver issues with the 4070, ever. Which is more than I can say for the fun Adrenaline has caused me in the past with AMD :(
 
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