Car competitions anyone won?

tangey said:
It is my understanding that in GB, these lotteries have no actual requirement to have a free mode of entry. For example there is no free mode of entry into the postcode lottery.

The reason for the free mode of entry, is so that they can be advertised nationwide and not exclude Northern Ireland, which has different lottery regulation, including requiring a free mode of entry. Otherwise it would mean that every TV program that does these things (and there are loads) would have to said "you can't enter if you live in N.I.".

You'll note that the postcode lottery does have such a T&C in small writing at the bottom of the screen in it's TV ads.

The national lottery, which by the by, is the biggest gambling outfit in the UK and has separate rules because it is the government one, is unique in both having no free mode of entry AND also available in N.I.

Lotteries are making this free mode of entry less viable these days. The latest one I've seen is pay £10 for 100 entries, or you can do it by post for 1 entry, so you automatically have a x100 less chance of winning. Also the price of a 2nd class stamp is increasingly making postal entries a thing of the past.

I have often wondered whether any such lottery has EVER been won by a post-in entry, or indeed are these actually entered at all or just thrown away.
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Mother in law won the readers digest one and she sent the letter back saying no..
You may need to be a certain age to remember this though
 
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A lot of these sites apparently issue a fair whack of the tickets to their own fake accounts then if they win say the winner took the cash alternative and then re-raffle the prize. Was a big leaked thing about it a while back from a disgruntled ex employee. Whether it’s true or not I have no idea but seems viable.
 
I know two people who have won from different websites. One guy won a Mini Cooper S for £1.

The other guy has won THREE times. He won a Clio 182, a Kawasaki track motorbike, and something else I can't remember. Not a Ferrari or anything, but still good.

I've won tech competitions before. I've won a PC (worth £1k, took the £750 cash alternative), a monitor worth about £500 (used for a bit then sold it), and I won £100.
 
I wonder if you can you enter these without paying using the "No purchase necessary" rule? No idea if it applies legally to these.

edit - Looks like this has already been discussed
 
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MOOGLEYS said:
A lot of these sites apparently issue a fair whack of the tickets to their own fake accounts then if they win say the winner took the cash alternative and then re-raffle the prize. Was a big leaked thing about it a while back from a disgruntled ex employee. Whether it’s true or not I have no idea but seems viable.
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wow, that's a pretty neat, if completely underhand, trick. If they were going to that length, it's not a stretch to suggest that the actual draw would be fixed to make their fake account the winning one, in which case no need to sell a whack of tickets, just make up a single account for the draw that you don't want to pay out, and make that the wining one.

I'm unsure if the gambling commission has oversight on the actual draw process.
 
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tangey said:
wow, that's a pretty neat, if completely underhand, trick. If they were going to that length, it's not a stretch to suggest that the actual draw would be fixed to make their fake account the winning one, in which case no need to sell a whack of tickets, just make up a single account for the draw that you don't want to pay out, and make that the wining one.

I'm unsure if the gambling commission has oversight on the actual draw process.
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Have you seen a live draw yet. They pull out balls with numbers that correspond to your ticket numbers.

Yes when Kev from facebook is trying to raffle off his Rolex then yeah fake accounts for sure. But these guys rely on people winning. Could you imagine how quickly their business would collapse if they were dodgy. They use winners for social marketing, They want you to win and want you to take the prizes.

The other thing that says they are legit. Is they quite often pull numbers out that correspond to a ticket that hasn't been purchased so have to do another redraw. In fact I think when the Mrs won the G wagon she was the 2nd draw as the first numbers hadn't been sold.


There was a rumour a few years ago about a dodgy site pretending to be one of the big guys. Someone won a "house" or another massive prize but didn't get the Prize.. They kicked off and the legit competition site paid the guy out of their pocket so they didn't get bad publicity.
 
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Once they're big enough, they're raking in more than enough money per draw to not need to mess about doing anything dodgy like fake draws or entries.

They'll be pulling in £70,000 worth of tickets for a car worth £35,000 to £40,000.

As @mattyg says - they want people to win, the more people win, the more popular they become, the more sales they'll make, the more cars they can turn over etc. etc.
 
Its just a fluke if you win anything, probably more chance of playing paintball against an SAS Sniper and beating the guy than winning a sports car.
 
dave28 said:
Its just a fluke if you win anything, probably more chance of playing paintball against an SAS Sniper and beating the guy than winning a sports car.
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You can literally see the odds on the entry pages, they're generally pretty good (in comparison to something like the lottery)
 
tom_e said:
You can literally see the odds on the entry pages, they're generally pretty good (in comparison to something like the lottery)
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Another example from DCG - for the £2 a lottery ticket would cost you, you can buy yourself 4 entries to win a nearly new BMW M2 giving you roughly a 1 in 57,000 chance.

If you're the sort of person who is going to throw away a few quid a week on some light gambling, this probably isn't the worst bit of gambling to take part in really.
 
Gibbo said:
Guy on here I believe has won twice @GhostWKD I think and took the cars.
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*Waves*

Won a few times with DCG (Cars and smaller bits), my current Evo 9 I still have I won from them in Dec'23 iirc :)

Know someone who won a Ferrari 488 with click competitions also, even my crazy good luck felt like nothing compared to that :D

Something very surreal though about turning up, being shown around a car then doing some paperwork, thrown the keys and driving away.
 
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You see it's reading about people winning multiple times that makes me very sceptical about how these draws work.

So I'll take a random current competition a Honda Civic Type R. 24995 tickets at £1.99 a pop. This particular site shows the draws and from taking a quick look they always sell out, give or take a few tickets, despite how tempting they must look at 20% sold with mere hours to go.

Lets say I go big and put in the max, £199 for 100 tickets, not an insignificant sum of money. My odds are 100/24995 or, to make things easy, as near as damn it 1 in 250. So the odds to win twice, with the maximum possible stake, is 1 in 62500. Yet everyone has a mate or knows someone who has done it... something doesn't stack up :confused:

Anyway... always fancied a Civic Type R as a practical replacement for the MX5 so I'm off for a punt ;)
 
lordrobs said:
You see it's reading about people winning multiple times that makes me very sceptical about how these draws work.

So I'll take a random current competition a Honda Civic Type R. 24995 tickets at £1.99 a pop. This particular site shows the draws and from taking a quick look they always sell out, give or take a few tickets, despite how tempting they must look at 20% sold with mere hours to go.

Lets say I go big and put in the max, £199 for 100 tickets, not an insignificant sum of money. My odds are 100/24995 or, to make things easy, as near as damn it 1 in 250. So the odds to win twice, with the maximum possible stake, is 1 in 62500. Yet everyone has a mate or knows someone who has done it... something doesn't stack up :confused:

Anyway... always fancied a Civic Type R as a practical replacement for the MX5 so I'm off for a punt ;)
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its people who throw silly money at each competition, I've seen people who have been maxing out tickets for every comp for a couple months before they win, they may still profit but the risk is high. Gambling if anything at that level.

I do enter them once in a while but rarely spend over £10.

I know 3 people that have won,

one guy won an rx7 in yellow from DCG
one guy won an evo 5 from LLF
one girl won an audi r8 v10 but took the £80k cash alternative.
 
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I stupidly put £50 on one last week for a Triumph spitfire. It had about 800 tickets sold at the time so thought it was worth a punt. I later took a look and they had sold about 2500 tickets at ~7.99 each and realised they raised about 20k for a 4-7k car. I wont be doing that again :P
 
I've only played LLF Games but stopped as I've heard negative reviews. I'd be interested to know the genuine sites apart from BOTB and Elite Comps. I only play if there's a car I want to win.
 
p1RATE said:
I stupidly put £50 on one last week for a Triumph spitfire. It had about 800 tickets sold at the time so thought it was worth a punt. I later took a look and they had sold about 2500 tickets at ~7.99 each and realised they raised about 20k for a 4-7k car. I wont be doing that again :P
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Why does it matter what they raised? You still spent £50 regardless. Or are you saying the tickets were too expensive?
 
GhostWKD said:
*Waves*

Won a few times with DCG (Cars and smaller bits), my current Evo 9 I still have I won from them in Dec'23 iirc :)

Know someone who won a Ferrari 488 with click competitions also, even my crazy good luck felt like nothing compared to that :D

Something very surreal though about turning up, being shown around a car then doing some paperwork, thrown the keys and driving away.
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IIrc you do spend a lot on tickets?
 
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