Ray tracing card advice.

[Superflyguyuk]

Hi
I currently own a MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB MECH OC Graphics, on a MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 5 3600 CPU.
I want to upgrade to a budget card that has ray tracing, as I want to be able to play the new Indiana Jones game, and this is the first AAA game I've been unable to run on my system.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, any other tweaks you could suggest to keep my system up to date?
Rest of my build is as follows.
* CoolerMaster MasterBox TD500 Mesh
* be quiet! Pure Power 11 500W 80 Plus
* Gold Modular Power Supply
* Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit

Thanks.

 

[Tetras]

Your CPU meets the requirements, so just the GPU that's out.

You could go with a 9060 XT 16GB for a modest upgrade at a reasonable cost (~£330), though a 9070 would be even better.

What resolution are you playing games at?

Edit: wow, 9060 XT 16GB gets smashed in HUB's benchmark of that game, though I'd assume you can turn the settings down, to get better playability.

 

[Superflyguyuk]

Hi
My monitor is HD only,
23,6 inch
165 Hz
FreeSync
1ms MPRT response time
1920 x 1080
I'm not bothered about 4k or higher etc as I really find it negligible difference (well it is with my eyesight lol).
But I can play pretty much every AAA game such as Cyberpunk on max settings and still get great FPS and fans don't go mad!

 

[jonnylaris]

Budget cards and Ray Tracing don't really go together.. just saying.

 

[Superflyguyuk]

I just need the ray tracing ability at a decent price point purely for future compatibility.

 

[melmac]

What's your idea of a decent price point?

 

[Superflyguyuk]

I'm hoping between £300-£500.

 

[Tetras]

I'm hoping between £300-£500.

Purely from HUB's benchmark of the game in the video above, I'd say go for a 5070, just because it almost hit 60 fps and I'm assuming you can dial down the settings to make it work.

In most other benchmarks I've seen though, the 9070 is pretty close behind and the extra VRAM is nice to have.

Howeverrrr, in HUB's review of the 9070, they stepped up the resolution to 1440p and the 9070 and 5070 couldn't even achieve 30 fps at the 1440p settings they used. Ouch.

Would be helpful if someone who has played the game can chip in, with what their card is realistically capable of in this game, at a not terrible level of detail.

 

[tommybhoy]

I wouldn't blow my budget on a 5070 running a 3600.

3600 will bottleneck RT'ing in any gpu, 16Gb 9060XT, use the change/savings and find a new/used 57/58003DX is a far better upgrade than throwing in a 5070.

Also Indiana jones is a very vram demanding game, I would avoid anything under 16Gb, higher texture performance cost is almost negligible and you will future proof your purchase.

 

[iamgigglz]

I wouldn't blow my budget on a 5070 running a 3600.
3600 will bottleneck RT'ing in any gpu, 16Gb 9060XT, use the change/savings and find a new/used 57/58003DX is a far better upgrade than throwing in a 5070.
Also Indiana jones is a very vram demanding game, I would avoid anything under 16Gb, higher texture performance cost is almost negligible and you will future proof your purchase.

+1 to all of this.

That power supply though... You're going to want a 650W~750W for where you're going.

 

[pastymuncher]

I agree, that psu will need upgrading if you buy a more powerful gpu as 480w isn't going to cut it. The 3600 will hold a more powerful gpu back as well.

 

[melmac]

I'm hoping between £300-£500.

No matter which GPU you decide to go for, you are going to have to upgrade your CPU at some stage to get the best out of it. It's possible that you might have to upgrade your power supply, depending on what choices you make. So factor those two things into your upgrade decision.

With your current system, there really is only two choices, the 9060XT 16GB or the 5060TI 16GB. For the game you want to play, Indiana Jones with Ray Tracing, then there is only one option and that's the 5060Ti. The 5060Ti cards are more expensive. But you should be able to find one for between £300 and £400.

If you aren't in any hurry to buy, I would wait and see what Black Friday brings. Because you are getting to the stage now where a full PC upgrade is due. As I said, you will need a better CPU, your PSU is just on the edge. And you are also looking or a new GPU. So, it might be time to save, save, save and upgrade the whole lot. You might get something back from selling your old system.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Raytracing works better with a faster CPU and ideally more VRAM too,especially if you need to use frame generation,etc. The motherboard is also stuck at PCI-E 3.0,so uncertain on whether the 8X interface on the RTX5060TI might cause issues. The AMD cards do also seem to loss a bit less performance on slower CPUs too,but the game does seem to work better under heavier RT settings on Nvidia. Looking at Techspot it's about 40FPS on a RTX5060TI at 1080p on a Ryzen 7 9800X3D!

That 500W PSU would be fine with an RTX5060TI/RX9060XT as they consume less power than an RX5700XT the OP already has. The RX5700XT is around the power draw of an RTX4070/RTX3060TI.