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Mysterae_ said:
One commentor said "I drove past it when only the wheel was on fire so it wasn't the cars" which may be true, I'm sure they'll the determine the source.
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TBH I am surprised they put it out as fast as they did, maybe all the cars batteries didn't fully combust as it was out by 10:30am and started just before 6.30am. Either way, I am glad no one was hurt, it is a real shame when accidents like this occur regardless of the vehicles involved.

If it were ATTO 3's I don't thing they have NMC packs, only LFP, so perhaps the transporter was the route cause, as the BYD blade packs are very good at with standing high temperatures.
 
Simon said:
Not really adding much then are you. Why are you even here. Voyeurism?

Just seems odd to be in a thread that you can’t really contribute to with experience yet get upset when I call out a guy who’s posted for about 4-5 years about all the reason why he won’t get an EV. I really don’t why you in here tbh

Seems to me you are just looking for an argument
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That is a very narrow view - I've never owned an EV but as I posted the other day, with evidence, I've spent a fair bit of time as a passenger or driver in several models of EV including the Leaf, Polestar and ID.7.
 
Mysterae_ said:
One commentor said "I drove past it when only the wheel was on fire so it wasn't the cars" which may be true, I'm sure they'll the determine the source.
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LGV driver I was talking to the other day said it is better for him to just walk away if a fire starts on the trailer, between company policies and insurance it can cost him his job and/or invalidate insurance cover to do anything else including unhitching and saving the tractor unit!
 
Armageus said:
So you are the gatekeeper of this thread and because I'm neither an EV owner or looking to buy one, then I can't be in this thread?

Good Luck with that ;)


It's not your job to call anyone out, and I'm frankly sick of the bullying behaviour. If you're representative of the majority of EV owners, then I hope I never own one.
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One of the worst things about being an EV owners, is owners like him. They make the EV Facebook groups almost unreadable with all the moaning about what ICE drivers have done/posted.

It's why, although I've owned 6 EVs (2 currently) I never contribute in here.
 
tom_e said:
I had a set of conti allseasoncontact 2s fitted not long after I got the id3 and I'm averaging 4mi/kWh after 3k miles so 230 miles roughly to a full charge which is about as good as you'll get in the real world. Tyre noise is no different to the OEM ones that came off
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Similar average performance to my Born 77kWh on the 20” aero Hurricane alloys. Getting about 300 miles out of it on average.

I think I might get another 5000 miles out of the tyres on mine but the fronts are Continental and the rears are Goodyear. No idea which ones are the originals but I suspect the rears were changed as it is RWD. These are the tyres that were on it when I bought it used.

I will replace them all and one thing I will not do is buy those terrible EV tyres that seriously impact wet grip. Will most likely go all season.
 
From a quick Google looks like the OE tyres are Conti or Bridgestone, a lot of the press cars are on Contis and most of the UK showroom pictures but looks like some dealers had Bridgestone options.
 
DarkBahamut said:

Autobild supplied some range data which showed about ~19% difference between the best and worst. They also did a second test in a wider tyre size which had about 14% difference between the best and worst. Most people probably aren't swapping between the best and worst so the difference that most people see will be somewhat less, but even a 5-10% difference is probably noticable.
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16% calculated difference from worst to best.
 
Em3bbs said:
One of the worst things about being an EV owners, is owners like him. They make the EV Facebook groups almost unreadable with all the moaning about what ICE drivers have done/posted.

It's why, although I've owned 6 EVs (2 currently) I never contribute in here.
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I stopped reading a local EV Facebook page when the main hobby became showing photos of ICED chargers.

I am prone to having the odd rant about ICE and after 5.5 years of EV ownership and our 4th EV, I would still not consider myself an EVangelist.

My very first experience of a public rapid charger was on my first day of EV ownership and plugging in to a single 50kWh charger for a quick DC test. This was the typical 50kWh “rapid” stuck at the back of a Sainsbury’s that would go to half speed if someone plugged in to the AC. A red Tesla Model 3 came in, parked beside me and and a suit opened the window and gave me a sob story about needing a charge to get home from a long day and could he jump in ahead of me. I genuinely didn’t mind at first until I saw his screen showed a total range of over 100 miles. I said “this is Northern Ireland, there isn’t anywhere you can’t get to with 100 miles of range”.

So many times I see issues at public chargers because of EV owners.

At a hotel recently a Tacan was not plugged in but taking up a charging station. A Model Y was parked over the remaining two bays but was at least charging. It stayed there AC charging for about 24 hours. On a previous hotel EV charging experience, a bunch of golfers with EVs had tag teamed the only charging station at a hotel so nobody else could get a charge.

Over my years of EV ownership, I concluded the biggest problem for owning an EV, is other EV owners.
 
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Let’s be honest. Most the drivers aren’t the owners.

No need to go all tribal on it though with the “us and them” rhetoric
 
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Mysterae_ said:
I see in the news that the M5 is shut southbound because of a car transporter fire.

Some "internet sleuths" are saying it was a truck load of BYD Atto 3s.
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sooner or later a car fire WILL be caused by an EV....Maybe this is the one (or maybe it will be the lorry which set on fire 1st, maybe there were ICE cars on the transporter as well). any vehicle can set on fire however no one posts on the 100s of daily car fires caused by an ICE. Also it seems to be regardless of the cause, the instant reaction in any vehicle fire seems to be "an EV caused it". EVs are full of electrical parts and have a massive energy store, there is gonna be a potential for fire but last i looked they are about 10% as likely to set on fire as an ICE vehicle.

Shoe on the other foot....... imagine we had all been driving EVs since for ever and someone suddenly came up with using a highly combustible potentially explosive liquid fuel stored along side a load of electrical components...... which fuel would people feel most comfortable with?.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
sooner or later a car fire WILL be caused by an EV....Maybe this is the one (or maybe it will be the lorry which set on fire 1st, maybe there were ICE cars on the transporter as well). any vehicle can set on fire however no one posts on the 100s of daily car fires caused by an ICE. Also it seems to be regardless of the cause, the instant reaction in any vehicle fire seems to be "an EV caused it". EVs are full of electrical parts and have a massive energy store, there is gonna be a potential for fire but last i looked they are about 10% as likely to set on fire as an ICE vehicle.

Shoe on the other foot....... imagine we had all been driving EVs since for ever and someone suddenly came up with using a highly combustible potentially explosive liquid fuel stored along side a load of electrical components...... which fuel would people feel most comfortable with?.
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Hydrogen powered car anyone?
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Let’s be honest. Most the drivers aren’t the owners.

No need to go all tribal on it though with the “us and them” rhetoric
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Not sure that owning or not matters. I’m not being tribal, just stating that my experience over 5.5 years is that the majority of times I failed to get a public charge* when I needed it, was because of other inconsiderate EV owners.

* Note that in general public charging has been mostly hassle free for me.
 
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ICDP said:
Not sure that owning or not matters. I’m not being tribal, just stating that my experience over 5.5 years is that the majority of times I failed to get a public charge* when I needed it, was because of other inconsiderate EV owners.

* Note that in general public charging has been mostly hassle free for me.
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personally I would say anyone blocking a charger is a plonker... be it an ICE vehicle or an EV not charging. Its not rocket science.... if you want to charge your car park in a charging bay... if you dont then dont. I wont lie it does trigger me TBH (the people doing it, not the people on here talking about it)

I have (touch plastic) been fortunate in the rare number of times i have had to publicly charge, only failing to get one on 1 occasion (where half the tesla charging stalls went down) but it was a close run thing the last time, i got the last free bay with 1 ICE landy taking up 2 bays.

I am pondering getting a private hire driving licence and becoming some form of taxi driver with my car next year... if i do i expect i shall get far more intimate with public charging!.
 
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ICDP said:
Not sure that owning or not matters. I’m not being tribal, just stating that my experience over 5.5 years is that the majority of times I failed to get a public charge* when I needed it, was because of other inconsiderate EV owners.

* Note that in general public charging has been mostly hassle free for me.
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Dont worry just making observation of last few posts, not just yours. It certain helps shows who are the morons when they have EVs thats for sure as the behaviours are more overt.
 
My Dashboard in the Ioniq 5 has started making a loud cracking noise when going over bumps. Will add it to the list when it goes in for warranty work later this month but it’s incredibly annoying to say the least.
 
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