Logitech MX Master 4
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I have the Keychron M6 and it is much lighter and similar in shape and design but it feels a lot cheaper too and has a rattly wheel. It's nice though with 1000Hz polling and long batteryy life otherwise but doesn't have the per-app features to customise like Options+ gives you.
MX Master 4 seems a bit of a dumb "upgrade", it has the excat same switches so the primary buttons could go dodgy again like MX Master 3S does (I've had 2 now replaced under warranty), same 125Hz polling rate (wtaf??) and the rubbery coating is now gone replaced with textured plastic with only pure silicone on the finger and thumb rest areas so should last much longer like silicone spatulas do in the kitchen.
Logitech has a trade in which gives you £30 for a MX Master 3S so you could get MX4 for under £100 that way, but I don't think it's a reasonable enough upgrade over the 3S given how very little has changed.
The haptics engine is mostly pointless and probably why it weighs MORE than the already heavy 141g 3S.
MX Master 4 seems a bit of a dumb "upgrade", it has the excat same switches so the primary buttons could go dodgy again like MX Master 3S does (I've had 2 now replaced under warranty), same 125Hz polling rate (wtaf??) and the rubbery coating is now gone replaced with textured plastic with only pure silicone on the finger and thumb rest areas so should last much longer like silicone spatulas do in the kitchen.
Logitech has a trade in which gives you £30 for a MX Master 3S so you could get MX4 for under £100 that way, but I don't think it's a reasonable enough upgrade over the 3S given how very little has changed.
The haptics engine is mostly pointless and probably why it weighs MORE than the already heavy 141g 3S.
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It's a lightweight mouse, my Rog Spatha X says hello 
I'll happily take the weight for the solid feeling these mice have. My G502X feels and sounds hollow & cheap compared to my Master 2S.
I ageree that the upgrade is a little pointless for 3/3S users, but I'm very keen.
Haptic feedback adds weight, and uses more power so it needs a bigger battery. AND that battery is Lithium Ion now instead of Lithium Polymer in the previous versions. Li-Ion is typically slightly heavier than Li-Po but does give you faster charging.
Edit - Also it's a lot more repairable than previous models. Lots of screws instead of glue and plastic clips. More weight...
I ageree that the upgrade is a little pointless for 3/3S users, but I'm very keen.
Haptic feedback adds weight, and uses more power so it needs a bigger battery. AND that battery is Lithium Ion now instead of Lithium Polymer in the previous versions. Li-Ion is typically slightly heavier than Li-Po but does give you faster charging.
Edit - Also it's a lot more repairable than previous models. Lots of screws instead of glue and plastic clips. More weight...
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I've just ordered one actually as realised my 3S is still under retailer warranty so filed an RMA and they offered a refund. the left and right buttons are dodgy after a year, sometimes have to double press MB2 and sometimes MB1 double clicks.
So £80 being refunded and the MX4 is £119, making the total end cost of MX4 for me £39.
That will be fine.
So £80 being refunded and the MX4 is £119, making the total end cost of MX4 for me £39.
That will be fine.
Copy paste from the buying stuff thread but it arrived today:
So far it's excellent, the quality upgrade doesn't translate in photos but it feels much nicer, no more weird rubber coating and the side grips are proper silicone like a kitchen spatula so very hard wearing it feels like.
The extra 10g weight can't really tell as it's so heavy anyway lol and Options+ asked to copy my custom settings over from the 3S which is rather neat. The actions ring thing is really cool actually, thought it might be a gimmick but it's fully customisable on a per=app basis so is actually useful.
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My review is up:
www.neowin.net
So far it's excellent, the quality upgrade doesn't translate in photos but it feels much nicer, no more weird rubber coating and the side grips are proper silicone like a kitchen spatula so very hard wearing it feels like.
The extra 10g weight can't really tell as it's so heavy anyway lol and Options+ asked to copy my custom settings over from the 3S which is rather neat. The actions ring thing is really cool actually, thought it might be a gimmick but it's fully customisable on a per=app basis so is actually useful.
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My review is up:
Logitech MX Master 4 review: It fixes many MX Master 3S woes, but misses in key areas
The latest Master series mouse aimed to boost productivity is out. The MX Master 4 continues what the 3S started, but unfortunately, it doesn't hit all the expectations. Here is our review.
www.neowin.net
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How long was the warranty? Sounds like somewhere I would want to be buying from if they honour a decent warranty (rarity these days).
I'm considering one of these but reading that there's no onboard memory so you have to set the software up on each PC.
I can't see my employer allowing Logitech software unfortunately so possibly rules this one out. Even my headphones have onboard memory, can't understand why Logitech skipped it!
This was with Amazon and warranty was the usual year retailer thing, although Amazon being Amazon, they tend to be fine if it goes over anyway.
You could request the software to see if your workplace will allow it perhaps? It is a Bolt device so is secure enough for business use, maybe play that card to them?
You could request the software to see if your workplace will allow it perhaps? It is a Bolt device so is secure enough for business use, maybe play that card to them?
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. I'm not surprised but still disappointing. I think half the features would be negated by not having the software, action wheel thumb button wouldn't do anything etc.
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Can be had for £83.99 if you search on a popular UK deals site, it did include a free carry case but they have sold out of those.
Recently went down a rabbit-hole reseacrhing this. Short answer: None.
The Mac version has "For Mac" branding on the underside instead of the Bluetooth and Bolt logos (although it still supports both), has slightly paler-coloured buttons (I think to match Apple colours), and does not come with a Bolt dongle.
Unless you're an UBER-fan of the different colour, the identically-priced Mac version is objectively worse for the money.
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Whether any of that represents an actual upgrade is subjective.
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Ha...doesnt matter...had a discount code but Logitech dont even deliver to NI BWAHAHAHAH...losers.
WAs buying the Mouse, Keyboard and Console....wow..really did themselves a favour there.
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