Spotify Hi-Fi lossless is (finally) here!

malachi · 30 Sep 2025 at 10:19

And when you have physical, nobody can take it away.

Firegod · 2 Oct 2025 at 13:15

Woop it finally arrived for me.

martos123 · 2 Oct 2025 at 17:04

I got it a couple of days ago and not overly impressed to be honest. It's better than Very High, but not as good quality as Apple Music or Tidal in my opinion.

Rroff · 2 Oct 2025 at 18:14

To be honest unless I'm specifically listening to a tune I don't really notice the difference between very high and any of the lossless services including Spotify.

wesimmo · 2 Oct 2025 at 18:57

Still can't test it. My phones are exclusively Bluetooth and my laptop still refuses to even play a song despite a fresh install.

Firegod · 3 Oct 2025 at 13:14

Yeah I think there is a difference, but very subtle. Track dependant as well. I do like to think I have a good ear, especially being musical (play guitar) so I pickup a lot of stuff by listening. The kit I use is good quality too which helps. But if you are not paying attention then yeah, not really noticeable. I've left it on for now just because it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling knowing it is set as high as possible haha. :cry:

Barks · 4 Oct 2025 at 08:55

So am I right in saying this is pointless to use on an iPhone with bluetooth B&O headphones but it is worth doing on my MacBook Pro if I use a jack cable?

Probably also pointless on my Dennon AV AMP as I doubt that supports it via the built in Spotify app.

smokedog · 4 Oct 2025 at 12:08

Barks said:
So am I right in saying this is pointless to use on an iPhone with bluetooth B&O headphones but it is worth doing on my MacBook Pro if I use a jack cable?

Probably also pointless on my Dennon AV AMP as I doubt that supports it via the built in Spotify app.

The iPhone AAC Bluetooth codec would be the bottleneck here. You should notice a slight difference when using a jack, depending on the song. Under critical listening, you might notice some extra clarity.

wez68 · 4 Oct 2025 at 18:32

Barks said:
So am I right in saying this is pointless to use on an iPhone with bluetooth B&O headphones but it is worth doing on my MacBook Pro if I use a jack cable?

Probably also pointless on my Dennon AV AMP as I doubt that supports it via the built in Spotify app.

Your Denon should support it if it’s fairly recent , my 4800 does

Barks · 5 Oct 2025 at 15:55

wez68 said:
Your Denon should support it if it’s fairly recent , my 4800 does

Mine is from 2022. It doesn’t appear to support it at the moment but I’ve got my fingers crossed as it appears they’re still rolling out firmware updates.

Barks · 5 Oct 2025 at 16:07

wez68 said:
Your Denon should support it if it’s fairly recent , my 4800 does

It works you’re right!!!!

It clearly says on the Info from within the Spotify Connect App “Signal: FLAC” instead of just PCM when you play standard quality.

I had asked Chat GPT to research it and it said it wasn’t possible hence my first reply. Yet again another example of how AI is useless.

Barks · 5 Oct 2025 at 16:12

Wow the difference is incredible! Didn’t notice this on my B&O headphones so the Bluetooth limitations definitely are an issue. Haven’t tried them via jack cable yet.

BUDFORCE · 5 Oct 2025 at 16:13

Rroff said:
To be honest unless I'm specifically listening to a tune I don't really notice the difference between very high and any of the lossless services including Spotify.

I can't really tell any different either.

MartinPrince · Monday at 13:30

Firegod said:
Yeah I think there is a difference, but very subtle. Track dependant as well. I do like to think I have a good ear, especially being musical (play guitar) so I pickup a lot of stuff by listening. The kit I use is good quality too which helps. But if you are not paying attention then yeah, not really noticeable. I've left it on for now just because it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling knowing it is set as high as possible haha.

Exactly the same here. We musicians apparently do tend to have better hearing if we haven't destroyed it with constant excessively loud music! (My audiologist said mine was the best hearing he'd tested in over 20 years!)

I can hear the difference but I'm listening through decent equipment - streaming over WiFi to my Denon X6700H or Sennheisser headphones. It's nowhere as big as going from ~128kbps to 320kbps but it is there.

Firegod · Monday at 14:06

MartinPrince said:
Exactly the same here. We musicians apparently do tend to have better hearing if we haven't destroyed it with constant excessively loud music! (My audiologist said mine was the best hearing he'd tested in over 20 years!)

I can hear the difference but I'm listening through decent equipment - streaming over WiFi to my Denon X6700H or Sennheisser headphones. It's nowhere as big as going from ~128kbps to 320kbps but it is there.

Hah yes! My last hearing test they said I had a very slight dip near the top end. He turned around and said to me "listen to any loud music". lol. :cool: