Poll: DIGITAL ID - It's coming *** NO GENERAL POLITICS TALK - ONE AND ONLY WARNING ***

Are you for or against the new Digital ID


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Having worked, and still work as a contractor for a government institution, the amount of incompetence and laziness, coupled with zero accountability, is absolutely staggering. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say that 75% of the money spent may as well have been set on fire. Even the simplest projects overrun by double, triple or even more of the original deadlines. They can take a £500 job to paint a wall and by the time they've had all their consultants in, then the consultants to review the plans, then the designers, the workshops that need to be held, then everything needs to be rescheduled three times because someone called in sick and has no backup, that job will easily be £20k. To paint a wall.

I've not even mentioned the corruption either, which again is so blatant it's unreal.

I've often said to put me in charge of a department, I've changed horrible teams and contracts around in the past and I'm more than happy to do it again. In fact I'm so confident that I'd say I could reduce expenditure by 50% in the first year alone, and have almost all the projects delivered on time.

But nope, it's a lot easier to just let things overrun and cost millions or even billions than spend a few hundred grand a year on a competent team of managers.

I struggle to get my head around it tbh.
That's why I left. I just couldn't deal with it any more.

Heck on one project I had a proposal for £45m+ of potential savings but they'd have to invest 500k to make it happen. The savings were double/triple/quadruple checked by experts and were validated.

They sat on the shelf for nearly 20 months no one wanted to help me deliver it or make them come to life because it wasn't "in line with normal procedure"...

Absolute waste of time and effort.
 
Wow, a company boss with morals. A genuine clap from me.

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Oracle are close to Tony Blair so wouldn't surprise me if they end up getting this (even after all what happened with Birmingham council) and that's why Palantir aren't going to apply to the tender.
 
I don't see how a digital ID stops people coming in illegally...
Ignoring the fact it's pretty much impossible to prevent people coming in illegally, a Digital ID could be made to prevent those that don't have one being able to work and accessing services.

As said though, it would require the Government to actual put in some heavy weight measures alongside the ID but they're too busy pandering to everyone and dealing with the folk that think it would lead us to some 1984 dystopia-esque future.
 
Not sure how that’s a ‘major blow’ if they are not one of the home office’s preferred IT suppliers. :confused:

According to Google’s AI, the Home office uses Capgemini, Fujitsu (it will not be them), Motorola (emergency services network) and a company called Sopra Steria.

Historically they have also used companies like Atos and Capita.

I’ve not heard of Sopera Steria but the rest are massive players in public sector IT and contracting generally.

It’s not news, nor is it a blow because they probably wouldn’t get the contract anyway so it’s just nonsense noise from the fail as usual.
 
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11 days for a debate date, but I'll be surprised if anything comes out of this said debate, as based on their response (and responses to most petitions), it'll be a complete waste of time.
If you watch that 'Parliament will consider ...' date, it has gone up by a day every time. I thought these things were supposed to tick down, not up!
 
If you watch that 'Parliament will consider ...' date, it has gone up by a day every time. I thought these things were supposed to tick down, not up!

They may consider but it is likely not to have a division (vote).
 
I think our hapless/hopeless/useless government would have had a slightly better chance of getting more people on board with this ridiculous idea if they hadn't just flat out lied from the outset.
Their arrogance is almost unbelievable, although hardly unexpected.
Trying to now bulldoze it through and upon us by force is I expect going to go very very badly for them, one only has to look at the petition and the latest polls to see what a monumental disaster this'll be.
 
I think our hapless/hopeless/useless government would have had a slightly better chance of getting more people on board with this ridiculous idea if they hadn't just flat out lied from the outset.
Their arrogance is almost unbelievable, although hardly unexpected.
Trying to now bulldoze it through and upon us by force is I expect going to go very very badly for them, one only has to look at the petition and the latest polls to see what a monumental disaster this'll be.
Yep. What they should have done was simply announce that they were going to modernise the National Insurance system to make it available on your phone, with photo, if you want it as Id (you need it anyway to work).
 
Ignoring the fact it's pretty much impossible to prevent people coming in illegally, a Digital ID could be made to prevent those that don't have one being able to work and accessing services.

As said though, it would require the Government to actual put in some heavy weight measures alongside the ID but they're too busy pandering to everyone and dealing with the folk that think it would lead us to some 1984 dystopia-esque future.

It's possible to stop most of them, if we actually had a proper border defence. We're an island ffs, the only way here is by air or sea (or one tunnel).

There is absolutely an ulterior motive for this digital ID crap. Probably to tie it in with the OSA and internet access, which has already fallen flat on it's arse.
 
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It's possible to stop most of them, if we actually had a proper border defence. We're an island ffs, the only way here is by air or sea (or one tunnel).

There is absolutely an ulterior motive for this digital ID crap. Probably to tie it in with the OSA and internet access, which has already fallen flat on it's arse.
How? Short of thinking the boats which is obviously barbaric and never going to happen, you can’t stop them.
 
How? Short of thinking the boats which is obviously barbaric and never going to happen, you can’t stop them.
The way you stop them is by making the journey worthless. Deport illegal immigrants immediately, catch them all at point of entry and return them, news will spread. Also reduce the generousity of the benefits to an absolute miserable minimum and remove people once their right to remain is over. Stop being so ridiculously geneours with our right to remain.

Remove the pull factors and increase the risk of wasting your hard earned criminal gang fee and people will stop paying to come here.
 
The way you stop them is by making the journey worthless. Deport illegal immigrants immediately, catch them all at point of entry and return them, news will spread. Also reduce the generousity of the benefits to an absolute miserable minimum and remove people once their right to remain is over. Stop being so ridiculously geneours with our right to remain.

Remove the pull factors and increase the risk of wasting your hard earned criminal gang fee and people will stop paying to come here.
Not sure I’d call £10/week and shelter generous but sure.

No one’s risking everything (literally) to escape whatever hell they have come from for nothing.

You could remove the 10/week and out them up in tents. It wouldn’t matter because that would be better than where most of them have come from.
 
Not sure I’d call £10/week and shelter generous but sure.

No one’s risking everything (literally) to escape whatever hell they have come from for nothing.

You could remove the 10/week and out them up in tents. It wouldn’t matter because that would be better than where most of them have come from.

It's more than homless Brits get. Some of it could even be conisdered a luxury tbh.

Free hotel stays and food forever? I'd take that even as someone with money lol. I'd rent out the house and retire now (which I bet some of these migrants are doing!)
 
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Only if you believe that most are refugees and not economic migrants who can afford to pay smuggler gangs. Also I think the whole refugee system is rotten and broken we should fund in region asylum not import ghettos.
 
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