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NVIDIA Killed The Sport!

SpellowHouse

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I used to methodically upgrade my PC at regular intervals. A new GPU every one to two years and a new CPU every three to four. But NVIDIA really have killed the habit! Their greed has pushed me to question what I was doing and from now on I am upgrading when essential, not just for the heck of it.
You bit the hand feeding you NVIDIA.
 
Pro tip: AMD’s 9070XT is a great GPU and worth a look. It’s cheaper than Nvidia, performs well, and the more we support AMD hopefully the more they’ll be inclined to keep innovating and releasing new GPUs.

Sticking with Nvidia because that’s what everyone else does, and having the fastest GPU no matter that cost is what caused this problem.

Now Nvidia give even less of a fig about the HEDT/gaming market you have even less reason to be loyal to a brand that never gave a damn about you in the first place.

Hopefully this also means they’ll get their tentacles out of game developers too.

Signed
A reformed 4090 owner who downgraded to a 9070XT, kept a great frame rate and gaming experience and paid a grand off his mortgage.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
I used to methodically upgrade my PC at regular intervals. A new GPU every one to two years and a new CPU every three to four. But NVIDIA really have killed the habit! Their greed has pushed me to question what I was doing and from now on I am upgrading when essential, not just for the heck of it.
You bit the hand feeding you NVIDIA.
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Near 2 years ago i upgraded my RTX 2070S for an RX 7800XT, this after 3 generations of Nvidia GPU's, 970, 1070, 2070S.

Its never put a foot wrong, not even slightly, for nearly 2 years i have forgotten it even exists, it just does its job day in day out from the moment i power it on to the moment i power it off without any complaint at all. i game on it for 6 hours straight, perfectly...

Performance is really good, it runs cool and quiet, i like the Diver software.... i could not have asked for a better, more dependable GPU, it was £480 when the RTX 4070 was £600 and its a better GPU than it, now i'm eyeing up the RX 9070XT, you don't owe Nvidia anything, there is an alternative.
 
9070xt owner here and il be brutaly honest i wouldnt trade my card for anything if im totally honest not even a swap for a 5080
the only time it ever complains or has misstopped has been entirely pebkac its been rock solid the drivers have been the same pretty much
yeah theres possibly slightly better available performance wise but ehhhhhhhhhhh id rather the solid reliable thing ive got sat next to me.
i probably sound stupid for saying that but here we are
 
SpellowHouse said:
I used to methodically upgrade my PC at regular intervals. A new GPU every one to two years and a new CPU every three to four. But NVIDIA really have killed the habit! Their greed has pushed me to question what I was doing and from now on I am upgrading when essential, not just for the heck of it.
You bit the hand feeding you NVIDIA.
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Nvidia isn't even launching new GPUs every year so there is no reason to upgrade anyway. Upgrade cycles are now like every 3 years
 
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greatash said:
This gen is meh overall from both parties. Save up and cross fingers the next gen GPUs on a new node will be a good chunk faster :D .
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It wont change much as theres been enough generations and product releases now where one can seriously question that theres collusion and price fixing going on between AMD and Nvidia.
 
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price rises have taken time to reach people with a better economic situation but the 1080 ti was the last flagship that a big group of gamers ever made in my opinion
 
randal said:
Pro tip: AMD’s 9070XT is a great GPU and worth a look. It’s cheaper than Nvidia, performs well, and the more we support AMD hopefully the more they’ll be inclined to keep innovating and releasing new GPUs.

Sticking with Nvidia because that’s what everyone else does, and having the fastest GPU no matter that cost is what caused this problem.

Now Nvidia give even less of a fig about the HEDT/gaming market you have even less reason to be loyal to a brand that never gave a damn about you in the first place.

Hopefully this also means they’ll get their tentacles out of game developers too.

Signed
A reformed 4090 owner who downgraded to a 9070XT, kept a great frame rate and gaming experience and paid a grand off his mortgage.
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How's FSR performing these days? Is it comparable to DLSS now?
 
Vinno said:
How's FSR performing these days? Is it comparable to DLSS now?
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FSR4 is, in the miniscule supported/updated games that can use it - remember what happened when FSR3/3.1 came out, still to this day, hardly any FSR1/2 gaves have been updated to support 3/3.1

So IMHO, this pattern isn't going to change unfortunately :(
I'd love to see a 9900XTX though, it's a shame AMD dropped the ball this generation and didn't even give us a 9800XT/X, considering previously, we got beasts such as the 7900XTX - regardless of whether the naming structure was misleading versus what we expected, and it was technically the 'real' 7800XT/7900XT, the 7900XTX was a phenominal card.
 
The fault lays with TSMC just as much as it does with Nvidia. The cost of cutting edge wafers today is horrendous with each wafer costing around $20k a pop and TSMC has virtually no competition when it comes to bleeding edge nodes so they can change whatever they like.

While newer processes have still given us better performance we now pay the same amount for each transistor for 3nm as we did for older nodes. Cost per transistor stopped getting better after 28nm rolled out (if you don't believe me just look at the price for a Xbox Series X at launch and now and compare that to the a Xbox One at launch and 5 years into it's life cycle).

Intel and Samsung really need to pull their finger out and give TSMC something to think about otherwise this space will never get better and your PS6 will set you back £1k.
 
Vinno said:
How's FSR performing these days? Is it comparable to DLSS now?
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www.xda-developers.com

AMD's FSR 4 beats DLSS 4 in one surprising way

For the first time ever, AMD's FSR 4 can properly compete with DLSS 4.
www.xda-developers.com www.xda-developers.com
Nvidia has always maintained a lead in image quality with DLSS, but the margins between FSR 4 and DLSS 4 are tighter than ever.

In terms of image quality, FSR 4 firmly slots between DLSS 3 and DLSS 4. While DLSS 4 remains more stable and detailed – with an even sharper presentation than at 1440p – FSR 4 is now very competitive, especially for those who previously considered DLSS 3 "good enough."


deviation said:
FSR4 is, in the miniscule supported/updated games that can use it - remember what happened when FSR3/3.1 came out, still to this day, hardly any FSR1/2 games have been updated to support 3/3.1

So IMHO, this pattern isn't going to change unfortunately :(
I'd love to see a 9900XTX though, it's a shame AMD dropped the ball this generation and didn't even give us a 9800XT/X, considering previously, we got beasts such as the 7900XTX - regardless of whether the naming structure was misleading versus what we expected, and it was technically the 'real' 7800XT/7900XT, the 7900XTX was a phenominal card.
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Over 85 games.
gpuopen.com

AMD FSR 4 now available in over 85 games - AMD GPUOpen

AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 4 is our transformative neural rendering technology now available in over 85 games.
gpuopen.com gpuopen.com

I don't think AMD dropped the ball. They said from the start, there'd only be a mid-range GPU release this time and that is what they did. And it is a good mid-range GPU at that. Next release should see the return of a higher end card. I like to think that they were testing the waters with this new architecture and now they know how well it performs they should take that into UDNA and amp it up.. hopefully. lol :)
 
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Firegod said:
Over 85 games.

I don't think AMD dropped the ball. They said from the start, there'd only be a mid-range GPU release this time and that is what they did. And it is a good mid-range GPU at that. Next release should see the return of a higher end card. I like to think that they were testing the waters with this new architecture and now they know how well it performs they should take that into UDNA and amp it up.. hopefully. lol :)
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That's not amazing though is it, lets be honest. As of January 2025 Nvidia supports over 850 games/apps with DLSS/RTX
NVIDIA DLSS, Ray Tracing, and GeForce RTX-accelerated AI technologies and features have been adopted by developers with unprecedented speed, faster than any other in NVIDIA’s history. Over 850 games and applications feature RTX support, including best selling games, the most popular apps, and the most used game engines.
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www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA DLSS & GeForce RTX: List Of All Games, Engines And Applications Featuring GeForce RTX-Powered Technology And Features

See which games, engines and applications support NVIDIA DLSS Super Resolution, DLSS Frame Generation, DLSS Multi Frame Generation, DLSS Ray Reconstruction, DLAA, NVIDIA app DLSS 4 Overrides, and AI technologies when you have a GeForce RTX graphics card, GPU, or laptop.
www.nvidia.com

And my point still stands that FSR3/3.1 was shocking considering even now the amount of games with FSR1/2, that still haven't been updated to atleast FSR3/3.1, is huge!

Yeah, so from the start, it was a letdown, saying they CBA with proper GPU's this generation, instead we get something awesome like the 9700XT - that gives us a taste of what can do, but we don't get something 7900XTX esque, which was a hell of a 4090 alternative if you didn't care about RT.
With how good the 9700XT is, it's just such a shame they didn't give us 2/3 more cards above it, I would have bought one, and I'm not alone. We all want to see AMD back on top, and there's no doubt who we'd rather give our money to.
 
deviation said:
That's not amazing though is it, lets be honest. As of January 2025 Nvidia supports over 850 games/apps with DLSS/RTX

www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA DLSS & GeForce RTX: List Of All Games, Engines And Applications Featuring GeForce RTX-Powered Technology And Features

See which games, engines and applications support NVIDIA DLSS Super Resolution, DLSS Frame Generation, DLSS Multi Frame Generation, DLSS Ray Reconstruction, DLAA, NVIDIA app DLSS 4 Overrides, and AI technologies when you have a GeForce RTX graphics card, GPU, or laptop.
www.nvidia.com

And my point still stands that FSR3/3.1 was shocking considering even now the amount of games with FSR1/2, that still haven't been updated to atleast FSR3/3.1, is huge!

Yeah, so from the start, it was a letdown, saying they CBA with proper GPU's this generation, instead we get something awesome like the 9700XT - that gives us a taste of what can do, but we don't get something 7900XTX esque, which was a hell of a 4090 alternative if you didn't care about RT.
With how good the 9700XT is, it's just such a shame they didn't give us 2/3 more cards above it, I would have bought one, and I'm not alone. We all want to see AMD back on top, and there's no doubt who we'd rather give our money to.
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I didn't say it was amazing or not, I was just replying with the figure so people can see. :)

But I still don't see how it was a let down. They said mid-range GPU only this time around and that was we got. Also they will never match Nvidia and their marketing shenanigans or their budget and ability to throw money at devs, so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that AMD's list is smaller. It would be nice to see older FSR titles brought up-to-date though, for sure. Let's see what cards come out Q2 2026. That might scratch your itch for a faster AMD card. Yeah, giving money to Nvidia at the moment is just feeding the monster, although we must remember no company is "our" (as consumers) friend.
 
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