Cost of Living - Shrinkflation is speeding up at an alarming rate

Cheese seems opposite way, there is a enforced min spend, growflation used on saver product to get it up to the base line price.

240g standard cheese for £2.75, where is 100g or smaller, and why isnt it £1.95 to match price per gram of 400g
400g saver branded cheese for £2.79 ???? where is the 240g version for scaled down price.
240g grated/sliced cheese for £2.75, where is 100g or smaller, and why isnt it £1.95 to match price per gram of 400g.
400g standard for £3.25 why is this only 50p more expensive
 
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We have a cheese shop in town and a cheese stall on the market. Neither will get you 400g for £3.25.
The Aldi standard product, mature cheddar, tends towards your saver price however my Stilton or Shropshire or Cheshire etc., tends to be more expensive when bought 'loose'.

Mmmm cheese! Quote from Wallace.
 
Cheese seems opposite way, there is a enforced min spend, growflation used on saver product to get it up to the base line price.

240g standard cheese for £2.75, where is 100g or smaller, and why isnt it £1.95 to match price per gram of 400g
400g saver branded cheese for £2.79 ???? where is the 240g version for scaled down price.
240g grated/sliced cheese for £2.75, where is 100g or smaller, and why isnt it £1.95 to match price per gram of 400g.
400g standard for £3.25 why is this only 50p more expensive
The obvious answer is the packaging and handling costs are nigh on the same regardless of how much you buy. As has always been the case, the less you buy, the worse value it is.
 
yes, cocaine is like chocolate - adulterating/cutting it for the final clients.

we frequently pilgrimage to a chocolate outlet shop in norfolk near Walsingham, they sell the seconds that don't pass QA, broken easter eggs often available in lead up to xmas.
 
yes, cocaine is like chocolate - adulterating/cutting it for the final clients.

we frequently pilgrimage to a chocolate outlet shop in norfolk near Walsingham, they sell the seconds that don't pass QA, broken easter eggs often available in lead up to xmas.
Maybe you need to start a shopping list for OCUK chocolate addicts...... £25 minimum plus delivery perhaps.....
 
The obvious answer is the packaging and handling costs are nigh on the same regardless of how much you buy. As has always been the case, the less you buy, the worse value it is.
My view is based on my experience in the food industry. Even if I didnt, how does using less materials, producing a smaller SKU (which also means less voids), give equal packaging costs, not just equal but higher to offset the lower product costs, it makes no sense. Executives have worked out its simply more profitable to go down the minimum spend route, we seeing it other sectors as well like telecoms, if you want lower monthly commit on EE e.g. then have to go to a MVNO.

Why is a saver branded cheese needing to be packaged in 400g instead of 240g? Does it somehow have higher packaging costs at 240g than the normal branded cheese?
 
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yes, cocaine is like chocolate - adulterating/cutting it for the final clients.

we frequently pilgrimage to a chocolate outlet shop in norfolk near Walsingham, they sell the seconds that don't pass QA, broken easter eggs often available in lead up to xmas.

Where abouts mate?

We are in Wells often, we probably end up staying about a month a year there spread over the year, I been the Walsingham a ton of times mostly on the train, although we haven't been quite as often after the Bull Inn closed down, their pizza's were awesome.
 
My view is based on my experience in the food industry. Even if I didnt, how does using less materials, producing a smaller SKU (which also means less voids), give equal packaging costs, not just equal but higher to offset the lower product costs, it makes no sense. Executives have worked out its simply more profitable to go down the minimum spend route, we seeing it other sectors as well like telecoms, if you want lower monthly commit on EE e.g. then have to go to a MVNO.

Why is a saver branded cheese needing to be packaged in 400g instead of 240g? Does it somehow have higher packaging costs at 240g than the normal branded cheese?

Every time you touch a product, ingredient, line, carton, container etc. has a cost, the reality is you have to handle smaller SKU's significantly more to move the same amount of product. It's really that simple.

For example, your packaging machine can do 200g blocks or it can do 400g blocks the issue is it can't do 200g blocks any faster than 400g blocks so it literally takes twice as much time (cost) to package 20kg in 200g blocks than it does 400g blocks. That then also imapcts the packing of those 200g blocks or 400g blocks into cartons, it takes twice as long to put double the number of smaller packages in the box as it does half the number of larger packages.

Then every time you then switch your line from producing 400g blocks to 200g blocks inccurs down time and has a cost.

I could go on but I'd be here all night.
 
Every time you touch a product, ingredient, line, carton, container etc. has a cost, the reality is you have to handle smaller SKU's significantly more to move the same amount of product. It's really that simple.

For example, your packaging machine can do 200g blocks or it can do 400g blocks the issue is it can't do 200g blocks any faster than 400g blocks so it literally takes twice as much time (cost) to package 20kg in 200g blocks than it does 400g blocks. That then also imapcts the packing of those 200g blocks or 400g blocks into cartons, it takes twice as long to put double the number of smaller packages in the box as it does half the number of larger packages.

Then every time you then switch your line from producing 400g blocks to 200g blocks inccurs down time and has a cost.

I could go on but I'd be here all night.
Every place I have worked at, smaller sku's are processed faster. Also with lower rejects as they less complicated products easier to manufacturer,.

Ultimately you probably can push out more product faster, but when we get to that point we talking about the same thing, which is basically executives have realised it more profitable to push a min base line, you an achieve by making pricing unattractive for smaller sku's or refusing to supply the smaller sku at all.

So lets go back to your example.

Maybe if you only 400g blocks, you can push out 50kg per minute. If you doing 240g blocks it might be something like 30-40kg per minute. However the problem is, you might struggle to sell the the 400g blocks if most people are satisfied with 240g, and you might struggle to sell 240g if most people are satisfied with 100g. So you can only get to that efficiency by manipulating the market, either by making the smaller sku unavailable or making it priced unattractively. There is no way a 240g sku cost the same to produce as a 400g sku.

In every factory I have worked at, its usually been the supermarkets pushing for larger sku's against the factory's wishes as well. As a manufacturer packaging was a huge part of the expense, so obviously we preferred smaller sku's. Reliability, voids, rejects, downtime, whatever you want to call it basically went to crap on the largest sku's and a lot of the machinery couldnt even produce the larger sku's so that required capital expenditure as well.

As an example, could run 10 pack multipack at 60 sku's per minute, or 24 pack multipack at only 35 sku's per minute. The reject rate on 10 pack multipack would be comfortably under 0.1%, whilst for 24 pack it could be in excess of 10%. Rejects are extremely expensive, either thrown away or having to be cycled again, regardless of recycling the packaging expense is always lost.

Before automation larger sku's typically required twice the staffing levels, even after automation, smaller sku's would be fully automated, larger sku's partially automated.

Finally not just more rejects on larger sku's, but the amount of lost product is higher, as a bigger sku means a bigger grams in the reject. It follows a similar principles to cpu manufacturing where basically larger dies are a pain in the backside.

If the factory had its own way, it would have only produced singular products, no multi pack at all, and at the biggest just 6 packs or 5 packs.

The advantage of the larger sku's if you make all the smaller sku's unavailable or unattractive to buy, is you forcing the consumer to buy more than they want/need. You manipulating consumers to buy a larger quantitity of your product.

So I think back to this particular factory, less than 5% of sales were the largest sku's, so clearly consumers didnt like it either, but if we suddenly largest sku only, the sales would obviously increase, suddenly the capital expenditure has a better business case, and maybe at the end of it all, more product is pushed, and more money is made, which is what I think has happened.
 
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This brings it home, some of those price increases are insane. Also, don't bother with the white 'chocolate' kit kats anymore, because it's not chocolate...
 
Its out of control at this point, I am seeing products getting new ingredients or resized almost every week now, its one product or another.
Usually its delisting of a SKU, and a similar replacement a couple of weeks later, with inferior ingredients and/or lower grams.
 
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Yeah I wondered why Kerrygold butter was constantly out of stock on Ocado. It's because the 250g block is no longer available, it's been resized to 200g.
 
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Its out of control at this point, I am seeing products getting new ingredients or resized almost every week now, its one product or another.
Usually its delisting of a SKU, and a similar replacement a couple of weeks later, with inferior ingredients and/or lower grams.
I think they've realised they can get away with it so are just doing it more. Only thing you can do is stop buying it.
 
Aldi knock-off 1664 larger gone from 5% down to 4.6%. used to like it now tastes naff.
And I think the Aldi manuka honey has gone from 250g to 225g and now in a plastic jar instead of glass.

I'd rather them out the price up of stuff. At least then you have the choice to get it or not.
Now the thing you used to like which you might of paid more for is crap.
 
Aldi knock-off 1664 larger gone from 5% down to 4.6%. used to like it now tastes naff.
And I think the Aldi manuka honey has gone from 250g to 225g and now in a plastic jar instead of glass.

I'd rather them out the price up of stuff. At least then you have the choice to get it or not.
Now the thing you used to like which you might of paid more for is crap.
Yeah ingredient change is the worst of the lot. My preference is price bump > shrink > nerf of quality. I might even prefer shrink to price bump, but both are easily preferable to making the product crap.
 
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