Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

Breadth in the market is concern. I looked at the S&P500 on Tuesday and it was up 0.8% but there was barely a green stock. It was almost all driven by big tech. A lot of those companies have doubled in value from the year low point at Trumps liberation day. It defies any logic and has the hallmarks of a degree of euphoria. Great for many of us investors but concerning as to how hard the correction might be. I sway on the timing of an drop. This week I've been slightly more bullish than normal as it seems inflation is almost under control, the Fed has cut rates, Trade war with China looks like it might be avoided and maybe the geopolitics is slightly more favourable.

With S&P500 pushing for 7000 I think we could see that by the end of the year so maybe the rally continues for another few months. I'm overall more aligned to
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I'm gradually selling out as I still believe we are at the peak and the crash is starting.

Grateful of the gains. But the hype seems to be over
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I see we have tipped into FEAR again
Fear and Greed Index

It's great when it's all going up but not so much when you see your account balances decreasing. I've balanced my portfolio as best I can to be able to not panic when it all goes **** up.
 
That healthy bump from Google pretty much wiped out by everything else being red. Better than all red I guess! :D
 
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Breadth in the market is concern. I looked at the S&P500 on Tuesday and it was up 0.8% but there was barely a green stock. It was almost all driven by big tech. A lot of those companies have doubled in value from the year low point at Trumps liberation day. It defies any logic and has the hallmarks of a degree of euphoria. Great for many of us investors but concerning as to how hard the correction might be. I sway on the timing of an drop. This week I've been slightly more bullish than normal as it seems inflation is almost under control, the Fed has cut rates, Trade war with China looks like it might be avoided and maybe the geopolitics is slightly more favourable.

With S&P500 pushing for 7000 I think we could see that by the end of the year so maybe the rally continues for another few months. I'm overall more aligned to

I see we have tipped into FEAR again
Fear and Greed Index

It's great when it's all going up but not so much when you see your account balances decreasing. I've balanced my portfolio as best I can to be able to not panic when it all goes **** up.
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Red today - 0.3% for me but I'm still up about 4.5% over the last 4 weeks... Meh.
 
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I know this thread is called the trading thread.. But a polite reminder of a metaphor..

Buying and selling individual stocks is it like trying to find a needle in a hey stack.

So why take the risk when you can just buy a share in the whole hey stack? Needle included?
 
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mattyfez said:
I know this thread is called the trading thread.. But a polite reminder of a metaphor..

Buying and selling individual stocks is it like trying to find a needle in a hey stack.

So why take the risk when you can just buy a share in the whole hey stack? Needle included?
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Pretty sure we know the risks dude :D
 
mattyfez said:
Buying and selling individual stocks is it like trying to find a needle in a hey stack.

So why take the risk when you can just buy a share in the whole hey stack? Needle included?
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Not really. I don't find it too much trouble.

You may not like paying charges for fund management, when you can quite easily do it yourself. Also, you may not want to invest in some companies for ethical reasons.
 
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Not really. I don't find it too much trouble.

You may not like paying charges for fund management, when you can quite easily do it yourself. Also, you may not want to invest in some companies for ethical reasons.
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Hey I'm not knocking your approach, but I'm happy to pay 0.2% to outsource the effort required for day trading.

The ethical question is questionable, though. If you care about ethics that much, stocks trading is probably the wrong thing for you, at least if you want to make money, and let's face it, that's what all of this is for.
 
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I kind of feel like a hypocrite, as I'm quite an ethical person, but i've also come to the realisation that humans are mostly a bunch of unethincal dicks... especialy when it comes to money...

I've decided I'm going to make hey whilst the sun shines, if I want to stand a chance of a comfortable retirement, so **** it, and **** them.
 
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Just because you are long term investing doesn't mean you have to be totally passive and pay for fund manager, in fact that os probably a bad idea. Having some understanding of the main ETFs, balancing risks to meet long term objectives etc.
 
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Just because you are long term investing doesn't mean you have to be totally passive and pay for fund manager, in fact that os probably a bad idea. Having some understanding of the main ETFs, balancing risks to meet long term objectives etc.
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I agree, but 0.2% or 0.1% is a price I'm prepared to pay to not have to really care about it, I don't want to be buring the midnight oil and pouring over individual company financials, candle stick graphs, and projections 24/7
 
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mattyfez said:
I kind of feel like a hypocrite, as I'm quite an ethical person, but i've also come to the realisation that humans are mostly a bunch of unethincal dicks... especialy when it comes to money...

I've decided I'm going to make hey whilst the sun shines, if I want to stand a chance of a comfortable retirement, so **** it, and **** them.
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This is the way.
 
mattyfez said:
I agree, but 0.2% or 0.1% is a price I'm prepared to pay to not have to really care about it, I don't want to be buring the midnight oil and pouring over individual company financials, candle stick graphs, and projections 24/7
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Oh absolutely, the 0.1-0.2% is the cost of an ETF
 
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Oh absolutely, the 0.1-0.2% is the cost of an ETF
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Exacty, I don't pay any fees other than the ETF fund management fees, and that's baked into my my balance anyway.. i've only got 2 ETFs, VWRP (i think I'm paying 0.22% for that) and VEUA is a bit cheaper at 0.1%.

I should probaly swap my VWRP for a cheaper equivelent global fund, but that's a headache for another day!
 
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mattyfez said:
Exacty, I don't pay any fees other than the ETF fund management fees, and that's baked into my my balance anyway.. i've only got 2 ETFs, VWRP (i think I'm paying 0.22% for that) and VEUA is a bit cheaper at 0.1%.

I should probaly swap my VWRP for a cheaper equivelent global fund, but that's a headache for another day!
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VWRP got reduced to 0.19% so it's not as high as it was at least.
 
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No bigger bulls then gold silver guys going back to the civil war for precedent. Have bonds suffered badly since Covid overall, this argument is that very large market will go into gold on a secular basis into 2030's
 
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