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200sols said:
You people are obsessed with making everything about Israel.
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Maybe because of the trades between the UK and Israel, arm deals that are being used to kill and on going settler violence in the west bank

UK doesn't have any involvement with Sudan ? that's also playing some part

www.declassifieduk.org

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet

Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders.
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hornetstinger said:
The only people who it's saying it's not a genocide is the zionist lobby and it's supporters, or just want arabs murdered.
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Or the people that use facts, numbers and statistics to back up claims.

uscool said:
Did you go ?
www.africanews.com

Protesters in London rally for Sudan as war reaches new deadly phase | Africanews

Protesters gathered outside London’s Downing Street on Wednesday to show solidarity with the people of Sudan, as the country’s brutal two-year war enters a new and more dangerous phase.
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Those protests are a stark contrast to the genocide protests of Gaza we have seen.
So, why the double standard?

200sols said:
You people are obsessed with making everything about Israel.
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If the other way round, these same people would be celebrating.
 
To be honest. No one cares.

To far away, not present in out minds/culture, to different a culture, not pushed by media or social media.

Same as anything really. People only really care about what they are told to care about. No hype train on this.

I've never heard anyone mention Sudan in real life.
 
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sidimmu said:
Or the people that use facts, numbers and statistics to back up claims.


Those protests are a stark contrast to the genocide protests of Gaza we have seen.
So, why the double standard?


If the other way round, these same people would be celebrating.
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Facts from whom? The IOF? :cry: still waiting for the list of hamas member names that were on the wall. I believe there are 12 Hamas members, their names are

January
Febuary

and so on :cry:

Not a double standard, you can protest against the genocide. Or perhaps people should be locked up arrested and classed as supporting terrorism, if they speak out against the genocide in sudan, right? Using the same logic, the RSF are defensive, and purely defending themselves as the christian terrorists. If you speak out against the RSF you are a terrorist supporter.

right?
 
hornetstinger said:
Facts from whom? The IOF? :cry: still waiting for the list of hamas member names that were on the wall. I believe there are 12 Hamas members, their names are

January
Febuary

and so on :cry:
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This is a topic about Sudan, if you want to speak about Israel and the IDF, thats in SC where you wouldnt be able to post what I guess you class as "jokes".

hornetstinger said:
right?
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Wrong. This reply shows you have no idea what is going on, but just want to compare to the Israel/Gaza saga.

If you cant see the double standard, I cant help you with that.
 
sidimmu said:
This is a topic about Sudan, if you want to speak about Israel and the IDF, thats in SC where you wouldnt be able to post what I guess you class as "jokes".


Wrong. This reply shows you have no idea what is going on, but just want to compare to the Israel/Gaza saga.

If you cant see the double standard, I cant help you with that.
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It's quite clear the agenda....only care when it's people of the same faith.
If christian were slaughtering arab muslims- wouldn't care one bit, class it as just defending themselves.

I've already demonstrated IOF are not acting in defensive role, and being nazis, but you simply don't care.

I know what's going on, I'm reversing the buzzwords from one aggressor that are used to justify genocide, to another conflict. That you do not see the double standards shows you do not understand, or blind to that due to tribalism and brainwashing.

I've seen Sudan kids running away and being shot
I've seen Gazan kids running away and being shot

What is the difference in your view? There should be none.
 
hornetstinger said:
If christian were slaughtering arab muslims- wouldn't care one bit, class it as just defending themselves.
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If this is what you are accusing me of, my god you are wildly inaccurate.

hornetstinger said:
but you simply don't care.
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I dont care, yeah you're correct. I have always stated both side are at fault and neither deserve the land. But you ignore that because its not pointing the full blame to Israel.

I am not replying to this nonsense anymore.
This is a thread about Sudan, not Israel. Go reply to the appropriate thread if you want to call me out on my beliefs on Israel and Gaza.

hornetstinger said:
I'm reversing the buzzwords from one aggressor that are used to justify genocide, to another conflict.
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Sounds mature and sensible.

hornetstinger said:
blind to that due to tribalism and brainwashing.
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Now thats a good joke, I'll give you that!
 
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sidimmu said:
If this is what you are accusing me of, my god you are wildly inaccurate.


I dont care, yeah you're correct. I have always stated both side are at fault and neither deserve the land. But you ignore that because its not pointing the full blame to Israel.

I am not replying to this nonsense anymore.
This is a thread about Sudan, not Israel. Go reply to the appropriate thread if you want to call me out on my beliefs on Israel and Gaza.


Sounds mature and sensible.


Now thats a good joke, I'll give you that!
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answer the question

"I've seen Sudan kids running away and being shot
I've seen Gazan kids running away and being shot"

What's the difference between IOF shooting a gazan kid in the back, and RSF shooting a christian in the back?

Which in your mind is justified and for what reason?, or both not justified? Since both of those events are happening.
 
hornetstinger said:
"I've seen Sudan kids running away and being shot
I've seen Gazan kids running away and being shot"
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I've seen Israel civilians running away and being shot.
Again because I am not anti Israel, you cannot accept a counter.

I had no idea that the International Orienteering Federation(IOF) was involved in the war either.

Enough of this nonsense, its embarrassing.
 
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Cant spell check, cant refer to the right organisations, constantly bringing up Israel in a non Israel SC thread.

I suspect you've been removed from the SC thread on Israel, as you've not replied in there since June, your last few responses clearly show why.
 
sidimmu said:
Cant spell check, cant refer to the right organisations, constantly bringing up Israel in a non Israel SC thread.

I suspect you've been removed from the SC thread on Israel, as you've not replied in there since June, your last few responses clearly show why.
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Still haven't answered the question, I think I know why

RSF state they aren't commited genocide. That's good evidence, I'll totally take their word for it.. They're simply defending themselves against the christian terrorists.

ok?
 
hornetstinger said:
What is "you people"? I'm white, English, Athiest.

They are not our allies.
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You people, as in you people in this thread constantly bringing up Israel. Not sure what your race or religious beliefs (or lack of) have to with anything...
uscool said:
Maybe because of the trades between the UK and Israel, arm deals that are being used to kill and on going settler violence in the west bank

UK doesn't have any involvement with Sudan ? that's also playing some part

www.declassifieduk.org

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet

Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders.
www.declassifieduk.org www.declassifieduk.org
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So discuss in the Israel or UK government threads.
 
200sols said:
You people, as in you people in this thread constantly bringing up Israel. Not sure what your race or religious beliefs (or lack of) have to with anything...

So discuss in the Israel or UK government threads.
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That was connected to why the lack of protests and I also did add because how the UK is involved with both , which plays some part
 
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There are issues all over the African continent.

I guess it would be rare for people to be all over the detail on every issue in every part of the world.. so I guess expecting people to protest about every issue is probably unfair to those that do feel passionately enough to protest a certain issue.

And what would the protest be about regarding the issues across East Africa specifically….

I must confess I knew none of the issue in that part of the world until I worked around that region. Its just a shame but the answers are not always clear cut
 
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