Your bad driving encounters/irritations
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I assume incompetence too nowadays, seen too much. If I was a biker I’d probably be terrified the whole time.
Current gripes:
- People running red lights, usually at speed. Seen two big accidents at the same crossroads on this and people just keep doing it. Potentially kill someone or yourself to save a few seconds? Seems mad to me. Often the same kinds of vehicles. I’ll leave it at that.
- Not indicating at roundabouts either at all, or in order to exit. Still people don’t seem to understand that just because you ‘went straight ahead’ that me on the opposite side of the roundabout, who may have arrived after you or been totally unsighted, should be able to understand the road you entered the roundabout from?! Was this taught differently in the past as it’s often drivers who I would say are a little older than me, maybe 50+?
Current gripes:
- People running red lights, usually at speed. Seen two big accidents at the same crossroads on this and people just keep doing it. Potentially kill someone or yourself to save a few seconds? Seems mad to me. Often the same kinds of vehicles. I’ll leave it at that.
- Not indicating at roundabouts either at all, or in order to exit. Still people don’t seem to understand that just because you ‘went straight ahead’ that me on the opposite side of the roundabout, who may have arrived after you or been totally unsighted, should be able to understand the road you entered the roundabout from?! Was this taught differently in the past as it’s often drivers who I would say are a little older than me, maybe 50+?
Or it wasn't a traffic car or the driver wasn't pursuit trained...
I find so many people seem to have a poor ability to weigh up "chance of something happening x severity if it happens" hence so many people having such a lazy complacency to health and safety in the workplace, etc.
Yeah to be fair there are a lot more community police, etc. around these days (when you do see law enforcement) - we had one where boy racers were joyriding around the car park at work and the police turned up, at which point they scarpered, but the lady in the police car said there was nothing they could do (if there was anything criminal involved) as they were just there to observe and be a visible presence.
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if I'm going straight ahead at a smallish NSL roundabout (many on A10) and there is nothing impeding me joining, so I'm at 30/40mph, there is really no time to indicate left on exit
I want to reduce possibility that anyone joining from left might think I am turning immediately left;
and am more concerned about that ambiguity/collision, than making it clearer to someone joining on the entrance after I leave that I will be gone, which they should be able to see from my trajectory&speed.
(yes that's a very particular scenario)
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car driver today in town literally indicated right as they started to turn into the side road I was emerging from on bicycle.
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Sometimes that's all that's needed to sort a problem. Unfortunately years of cuts has made this difficult.
^iirc on small roundabouts I'm sure the highway code says you don't have to indicate for straight on.
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Part of the reason I sold mine in the summer.
I think this is where the ambiguity comes in and regardless of what it says, people don’t use common sense or consideration to other road users if a signal would be needed or sensible. I was taught that you don’t need to signal on mini roundabouts if you go straight on, otherwise signal to leave. I know it’s not the most dangerous thing assuming you’re prepared for having no idea where someone may go but it’s annoying and can cause issues.
I don’t buy that ‘going too fast to indicate’ is a reasonable explanation, especially if there are people waiting to enter. You should indicate after you pass the exit before the one you’re using. Often that is just a few clicks. I guess sometimes I won’t indicate if there’s a dedicated lane or filter lane or occasionally if it’s the middle of the night and I genuinely am the only car. Maybe it makes sense on some roundabouts but if you give people the choice or make it ambiguous then typically you get a bunch of people who just don’t bother signalling.
older relations I'm often in the car with indicate they want to leave roundabout so early (poor reactions they try to pre-emptively address) it could be misinterpreted by those joining next that they may take current exit too -
better to be safe than sorry that someone joins because they think you will be gone;
and if you are joining fast , too, per my post, you also don't need that ambiguity
better to be safe than sorry that someone joins because they think you will be gone;
and if you are joining fast , too, per my post, you also don't need that ambiguity
Numbskulls I often see that drive on a motorway slip road at 40 to 50mph with an HGV baring down on them on the inside lane of the motorway. Instead of speeding up sufficiently to get infront of the HGV safely or slow down enough to tuck in behind it, they match the speed of the HGV inevitably causing an issue for themselves and the HGV. These people need to be beaten to death
It's an intresting... moment when it happensIn a similar vain to that, I saw somebody completely stop to let a bus out this morning
On 70mph dualie.
Oh you guys just reminded me of some Merc two days ago, which stopped in the middle of a roundabout just before the exit that I was coming out of to let me out...
I pulled a very confused face. I think I waited a good 5 seconds for them to go, but they just didn't, so I just decided to go and they finally drove off after I passed. No traffic ahead of him, no traffic in the area at all, nothing blocking either of us.
Some people are so bizarre.
I pulled a very confused face. I think I waited a good 5 seconds for them to go, but they just didn't, so I just decided to go and they finally drove off after I passed. No traffic ahead of him, no traffic in the area at all, nothing blocking either of us.
Some people are so bizarre.
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Yes, assuming the left lane can take intermediate exits as identified by signage or road markings, then as per Rule 186 you quoted "you should not normally need to signal on approach" and "signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want"
Nobody should need to be using the horn if everyone is in the correct lane - if you have to cut across someone to exit either they're in the left lane trying to go too far round to the right incorrectly, or you're in the right lane trying to exit too soon incorrectly. It's not a problem caused by lack of indication.
I've gone for slower bikes now, but yes, it is a whole lot worse than it used to be. After decades of riding you get a sort of 6th sense of what people are going to do, but even that is harder now as it is all so random and unpredictable out there.
You'd almost think people had never had driving lessons or a test, just given the car keys and told to get on with it.
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Probably looking for any excuse to stop so they could fiddle with their phone...
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Should be instant licence loss, and never allowed to drive again. Someone on a main road should never stop to let someone on (obviously if it's stop/start traffic that's different and nowhere near as dangerous/stupid).In a similar vain to that, I saw somebody completely stop to let a bus out this morning
On 70mph dualie.
If you mean assists are falsely triggering bringing people to a stop, I've never really seen that behaviour in the type of situations people are talking about aside from maybe some of the cheaper Chinese, etc. brands like the Maxus vans we sometimes get as hire vehicles at work
the closest I've ever come to experiencing it is occasionally getting a warning tone in the rain or other conditions which can sometimes mess with sensors but not with a resulting intervention.
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