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[mrk]

I do wonder how much better much more expensive speakers would be. I am not really interested in how loud they go, the M3's more than loud enough for desktop pc imo.

I went this route a while back and bought the KEF LS50 Meta and whilst they are more modern than my Q300, they were nowhere near as enjoyable as my ~12yr old Q300s for both music and gaming. You must have a sub with those LS50s and yeah the cabinets are a little bit smaller with smaller drivers but even still, you expect a certain level of punch at £1000 for a pair of speakers. I returned them a week later and will just forever keep the Q300s until they die or something.

You get to the point of diminishing returns at a certain level and that level doesn't really have a minimum price bracket because you can get super high end audio performance without spending much at all these days which was not the case in the past typically.

 

[hornetstinger]

I went this route a while back and bought the KEF LS50 Meta and whilst they are more modern than my Q300, they were nowhere near as enjoyable as my ~12yr old Q300s for both music and gaming. You must have a sub with those LS50s and yeah the cabinets are a little bit smaller with smaller drivers but even still, you expect a certain level of punch at £1000 for a pair of speakers. I returned them a week later and will just forever keep the Q300s until they die or something.

You get to the point of diminishing returns at a certain level and that level doesn't really have a minimum price bracket because you can get super high end audio performance without spending much at all these days which was not the case in the past typically.

LS50 have a marmite sound, can be very hard on the ears. Hard to drive, inefficent and need a sub and high passing them essential.

 

[mrk]

Driving them wasn't an issue, nor was the sound, classic KEF combined with NAD "sound" which I am used to and prefer, it was the lack of punch which makes sense as they are smaller cabs and woofers, but for £1000 they did not represent the kind of upgrade I would call worth the money, even adding at least another £200 on top for a sub I could not see them outdoing my Q300s as an all round great speaker that doesn't care about positioning or distance from a wall etc.

To my ears they are overhyped and overpriced.

 

[TNA]

@mrk how would you say based on specs and having had a go on the M60 would you say they compare to the M3's?

I know hard to say exactly. But is there something the M3's have missing that yours has that would make a big enough difference?

 

[mrk]

Not heard the MR3 so can't say but the M60 has custom 6 band EQ which saves to them so you can tune the freq response you like via the app. Long throw driver also means bass is louder than you'd think given the size.


Obviously a video only tells so much but here is an idea:

 

[TNA]

Not heard the MR3 so can't say but the M60 has custom 6 band EQ which saves to them so you can tune the freq response you like via the app. Long throw driver also means bass is louder than you'd think given the size.


Obviously a video only tells so much but here is an idea:

M3 has the app and that ability also. Will check out the video thanks.

 

[hornetstinger]

Not heard the MR3 so can't say but the M60 has custom 6 band EQ which saves to them so you can tune the freq response you like via the app. Long throw driver also means bass is louder than you'd think given the size.


Obviously a video only tells so much but here is an idea:

Another alternative is a streamer with room EQ built in, ie Wiim pro/plus/ultra. I use the PEQ function with UMIK1, and allows multiple presets also.

 

[ATIorNvidia]

I do wonder how much better much more expensive speakers would be. I am not really interested in how loud they go, the M3's more than loud enough for desktop pc imo.

You should only really be buying small speakers if you need the space, as small drivers (even if you aren't pushing them) suffer from high intermodulation distortion when they're covering a full range signal.

For around £300 at a similar size to the MR3, the Adam D3V's (3.5") would be a good step up, but for the same price the larger T5V's for example are significantly better, even at moderate volumes.

 

[mattyfez]

Just bought some M60 to replace my old creative T20 Mk1's... bit late to ask now, but how are you finding them a year in @mrk ?

I wanted something small but decent for my desktop, so these seemed perfect on paper?

I had a look at the M3's mentioned in this thread, but although slightly bigger, which I don't actually want, it seems they are lower spec amp and crossovers ?

 

[mrk]

They're on an another machine and not used for any critical listening, just general use speakers, they sound good, do the job, not much more to say really than that given their price.

 

[mattyfez]

They're on an another machine and not used for any critical listening, just general use speakers, they sound good, do the job, not much more to say really than that given their price.

Not exactly a glowing review haha.
They will be replacing my creative T20 and they seem a bit better in theory!
Just for desktop use, bit of gaming and music, mostly internet radio...

PC is in my living room and I have more serious amp and speakers hooked up to that and my TV for proper music /movies as opposed to sat at the desk.

 

[hornetstinger]

Not exactly a glowing review haha.
They will be replacing my creative T20 and they seem a bit better in theory!
Just for desktop use, bit of gaming and music, mostly internet radio...

PC is in my living room and I have more serious amp and speakers hooked up to that and my TV for proper music /movies as opposed to sat at the desk.

What about these?

Kii THREE - HOME AUDIO - Kii Audio

Kii THREE Home Audio Pro Audio Custom Installer The Kii Three brings an exhilarating and transformative audio experience, delivering unparalleled clarity, deep and resonant bass, and a liveliness that fills the room, enchanting every listener! Wired Connectivity Compact Full Range Speaker 1,500...

www.kiiaudio.com

 

[mrk]

Not exactly a glowing review haha.
They will be replacing my creative T20 and they seem a bit better in theory!
Just for desktop use, bit of gaming and music, mostly internet radio...

PC is in my living room and I have more serious amp and speakers hooked up to that and my TV for proper music /movies as opposed to sat at the desk.

No real complaints about them, they do a great job for their size, but my main desktop audio is obviously leagues ahead so not much I can add other than for their class they do a fine job hah.

 

[mattyfez]

No real complaints about them, they do a great job for their size, but my main desktop audio is obviously leagues ahead so not much I can add other than for their class they do a fine job hah.

OK they should be fine then... I was always impressed with my T20 Mk1's for the size of them and I do need something small so if they are a step up from that I'm happy...

 

[mattyfez]

What about these?

Kii THREE - HOME AUDIO - Kii Audio

Kii THREE Home Audio Pro Audio Custom Installer The Kii Three brings an exhilarating and transformative audio experience, delivering unparalleled clarity, deep and resonant bass, and a liveliness that fills the room, enchanting every listener! Wired Connectivity Compact Full Range Speaker 1,500...

www.kiiaudio.com

Hehe, sure I'm going to spend several thousand pounds on some desktop pc speakers, hehe he.

Too late now the m60's are in the post, I was just curious as to what others thought of that particular model, as it was always going to be a compact 2-way speakers with a 3 or 4 inch mid bass driver.

 

[hornetstinger]

Hehe, sure I'm going to spend several thousand pounds on some desktop pc speakers, hehehe

I heard them in the North West Audio show, very dynamic with superb bass from a little speaker.

But yeah out of my price range, and the bass module stand adds another £25,000 or something like that.

 

[mattyfez]

I've accidentally bought a pair of warfdale 9.1s as well to replace my ratty and old tannoy M1's as my main stereo pair.

That will be interesting as the tannoys are pretty much unbeatable for budget book shelf style units, I've always thought they were superb so we shall see!

 

[hornetstinger]

I've accidentally bought a pair of warfdale 9.1s as well to replace my ratty and old tannoy M1's as my main stereo pair.

That will be interesting as the tannoys are pretty much unbeatable for budget book shelf style units, I've always thought they were superb so we shall see!

Never had 9.1 but I had 9.0 for a while, amazing sound for the price and size, nothing bad about them, although a subwoofer is recommended, if you push them a bit hard full range they do struggle a bit, so high passing is recommended. But for lower volumes they were fine.

 

[mattyfez]

Never had 9.1 but I had 9.0 for a while, amazing sound for the price and size, nothing bad about them, although a subwoofer is recommended, if you push them a bit hard full range they do struggle a bit, so high passing is recommended. But for lower volumes they were fine.

Yeah they will be connected to a tangent ampster, with also a 100w paradigm 10" active sub hooked up to it

 

[hornetstinger]

Yeah they will be connected to a tangent ampster, with also a 100w paradigm 10" active sub hooked up to it

will you be able to high pass the speakers? Does that amp have bass management or does it cross speakers at 80hz, with low pass for the sub at 80hz?

Things like Wiim amp have bass management (or a AVR)