Your bad driving encounters/irritations

Last night, after date night with Mrs Resident,I took my mother home who babysat for us.

Got behind a Focus who was driving 30-40% under the limit, braking randomly in corners that are perfectly safe at the speed limit. Got to a NSL, long and straight, plenty of visibility and he proceeds to do 27mph.

Having had enough and with a clear road ahead I put the foot down and went around him. Que the horn and flashing from him as if I'd done something wrong
 
Went to a Sainsbury's on Christmas Eve last year and a lady was shouting and having a meltdown over a lack of parsnips
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I can beat that. Tescos, XMas eve last year. Crowd of 'shoppers' surrounding a poor lad. Apparently they'd run out of Maris Pipers. He was standing next to a huge pallet of 19p potatoes. I blame Gordon Ramsey.
 
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Almost had someone crash into me last evening as I was approaching a junction. I was careful as usual and slow on approach, but the corner cutter had other ideas. Its scary the lack of awareness shown towards a vehicle approaching a junction and barrel through a corner cutting it with half of your car's width.
 
LowEndTorque said:
Almost had someone crash into me last evening as I was approaching a junction. I was careful as usual and slow on approach, but the corner cutter had other ideas. Its scary the lack of awareness shown towards a vehicle approaching a junction and barrel through a corner cutting it with half of your car's width.
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This and the sheer number of people who only look right when peeling left out of junctions, especially in estates where you find a lot of street parking so vehicles can be on the 'wrong' side already overtaking.
 
Mekrel said:
I know I'll probably get a lot of flak for this, but honestly, I tend to find a lot of female drivers just lack common sense on the road. Sure, there are terrible male drivers but I tend to find they're aggressive or reckless rather than being away with the fairies.

Case in point, last weekend I was approaching the roundabout below. It has 4 exits, one at 9 o'clock, the other at 12, then 3 and the last back on yourself at 6. Every road leading to this roundabout widens as you enter the roundabout, allowing free traffic flow as two cars can enter and fit easily onto the roundabout (see Clio for scale).

So as I'm approaching, there's a mini hard right, giving way. I enter the roundabout alongside them to go straight over and I'm then beeped at because they thought for some unknown reason, you should position right to go straight over....

Female driver, and what annoys me the most is people beeping when they're the ones in the wrong.

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Happens a lot at that roundabout, its even worse coming the other way, so may use the right lane to jump the queue to go straight ahead! :rolleyes:
 
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LowEndTorque said:
Almost had someone crash into me last evening as I was approaching a junction. I was careful as usual and slow on approach, but the corner cutter had other ideas. Its scary the lack of awareness shown towards a vehicle approaching a junction and barrel through a corner cutting it with half of your car's width.
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Had that three times on one junction today, one after the other. The householder on the corner has actually cut a huge section out of his hedge to presumably give people a fighting chance against the tools that just cut the corner into the estate.
 
Richie said:
This is the kind of thing I am referring to when I was mentioning how EVs are turning people into bigger risk takers due to the acceleration they offer compared to ICE vehicles. Sure, they can allow safer overtakes, as the overtake takes less time, but they can also give driver's over confidence in more unsafe situations where they pull out on people.
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Going off the back of what I mention about EVs - Coming home tonight on the Motorway, I am in Lane 2 (of 3), passing vehicles in Lane 1, and an HGV was in Lane 1 and put his indicator on to move to Lane 2. I looked in my mirror and there was around 60-70 yds of room in Lane 3 before the next car would pass me so I indicated, waited a second and then started to move out. Tesla driver that was in Lane 3 didnt like that and floored it as soon as he seen my indicator on and started top move over to attempt to block me from moving over into Lane 3

By this time I started to move over but, due to the Tesla acceleration, they ended up almost beside me as I made my move over before slamming the brakes on and blasting the horn, upset that I ended up in front of them.

Sitting up my arse wasn't enough though. He then decides to move from Lane 3 to Lane 1 in slightly heavy traffic and cutting up multiple cars, undertake all the cars and then launch himself back across 2 lanes, again in front of cars, almost making contact with his Offside Rear ¼ on my Nearside Front Wing in order to get in front of me.

All done in darkness and rainy weather.

Absolute loon ball. I don't blame the car in itself but the insane acceleration of these cars enable these tools to "drive" stupidly.
 
Shocker last night as waiting to turn left out of a junction into a 60. Car in front chances his left turn whilst I can see an insignia coming up fast and sure enough I see his nose dive as he has to heavily break, I didn’t expect the car turning into our junction to also cut in front of him though!

I lost any sympathy for the guy though as I’m behind him and he’s tailing gating the car that pulled out on him through lots of standing water and deep puddles for about 5 miles…just let it go man!
 
Twice today got behind people dawdling along who then put their foot down after I've committed to overtake, second one wasn't so bad as it was a dual-carriageway but first turned what should have been a perfectly safe overtake into something a little dicey - karma got them though as around the next corner approaching a stretch of road with no chance of passing for 2-3 miles was a cyclist who I got past and they didn't...

Coming home just now saw a car coming the other way swerve suddenly - pedestrian all in black walking in the road with their back to traffic the car just missed them by inches - they were barely visible to me - though the car coming the other way should have seen them a bit earlier but I can see how they didn't spot them until the last moment.

EDIT: Looks like they covered quite a bit of distance in the road - someone else saw them further along (or maybe a bit earlier not sure on timeline):

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Richie said:
Going off the back of what I mention about EVs - Coming home tonight on the Motorway, I am in Lane 2 (of 3), passing vehicles in Lane 1, and an HGV was in Lane 1 and put his indicator on to move to Lane 2. I looked in my mirror and there was around 60-70 yds of room in Lane 3 before the next car would pass me so I indicated, waited a second and then started to move out. Tesla driver that was in Lane 3 didnt like that and floored it as soon as he seen my indicator on and started top move over to attempt to block me from moving over into Lane 3

By this time I started to move over but, due to the Tesla acceleration, they ended up almost beside me as I made my move over before slamming the brakes on and blasting the horn, upset that I ended up in front of them.

Sitting up my arse wasn't enough though. He then decides to move from Lane 3 to Lane 1 in slightly heavy traffic and cutting up multiple cars, undertake all the cars and then launch himself back across 2 lanes, again in front of cars, almost making contact with his Offside Rear ¼ on my Nearside Front Wing in order to get in front of me.

All done in darkness and rainy weather.

Absolute loon ball. I don't blame the car in itself but the insane acceleration of these cars enable these tools to "drive" stupidly.
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This is not only an EV thing. I had the same happen so many times with ICE drivers I have lost count. Even a 2.0d 3/4 series, or A4/A6 would have the poke to do what that Tesla did and close a gap in seconds. I specifically mentioned those two cars brands as they seem the most typical for this behaviour.

I have lost count at the amount of times ICE drivers get upset that you dared to safely move in to “their” lane.

Ironically as an EV driver of 5.5 years, I find the extra overtaking power of an EV to be more of a tool to put aggressive ICE drivers in their place, rather than a way for me to intimidate other drivers.

The most typical being coming out from behind you in to the outside lane at a set of lights/roundabout to get the “jump” and get ahead of you. Or the less typical but still common one of attempting to use the right turn only lane to jump the queue. Not when I’m in my EV at the front of the queue you won’t ********. :)
 
ICDP said:
This is not only an EV thing. I had the same happen so many times with ICE drivers I have lost count. Even a 2.0d 3/4 series, or A4/A6 would have the poke to do what that Tesla did and close a gap in seconds. I specifically mentioned those two cars brands as they seem the most typical for this behaviour.
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It isn't only an EV thing but the cars you mention cannot accelerate in the same way as the Tesla.

A quick Google suggest a BMW 3 series 2.0d can do 50-70mph in 4.3 seconds whilst a Tesla is 2.0 seconds, less than half the time.

So, yes, whilst it is not just an "EV thing" regarding closing gaps,. it's most certainly an "EV thing" for being able to do it more easily than ICE vehicles.

My experiences with EVs is where my opinion comes from and the crazy acceleration that a lot of them can do enables their drivers to perform more dangerous manuevers than they may otherwise do.... For example - traffic light Grand Prix, speeding away to stop another driver "jumping the queue". Yes, the other driver is a tit, but does that mean the EV driver has to drive like one as well to do what? Teach them a lesson? Reinforce your Alpha status on the road? Feel all smug internally?

Don't get me.wrong, I am confident that, during any Traffic Light Grand Prix, the EV driver only accelerates to the speed limit and goes no faster....right? :cry:

I agree that an EVs acceleration can be very useful at times, but its putting supercar performance into an everyday person's control and, although the car may be capable, the driver may not be.
 
That 50-70 time in a TDI or 2.0d can be cut drastically by downshifting. The 50-70 times in an ID.3 or typical EV is actually slower than that. You met a moron in a Tesla (I have news for you, the majority of Tesla owners are morons ;)) and now all EV drivers are idiots in cars they can’t handle?

The irony is this myth that all EVs have sports car like performance has been mostly propagated by EV owners. Sorry but your Kona EV getting 0-60 in 7 seconds is not by any stretch of the imagination “fast”. It’s just faster than your old Ford Focus.

For the record, yes I do accelerate to the speed limit and rarely speed deliberately. I have a Cupra Born that gets to 60 in about 7 seconds and the 50-70 times are slower than my old BMW 4 Series 2.0d.

Just setting the record straight on some of these EV performance myths. No hard feeling and have a good Christmas period.
 
ICDP said:
That 50-70 time in a TDI or 2.0d can be cut drastically by downshifting. The 50-70 times in an ID.3 or typical EV is actually slower than that.
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I was using the examples you provided for ICE cars and comparing it to the most common EV on UK roads at the moment (Tesla Model Y). This, coincidentally, was the vehicle involved in the incident I spoke about (Tesla Model Y)

ICDP said:
You met a moron in a Tesla (I have news for you, the majority of Tesla owners are morons ;)) and now all EV drivers are idiots in cars they can’t handle?
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Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Unless you can point out where I said that all EV drivers are idiots in cars they can't handle? :confused:

I do agree that Tesla owners are on par with the arse-holery driving of BMW/Audi drivers though :D

ICDP said:
The irony is this myth that all EVs have sports car like performance has been mostly propagated by EV owners. Sorry but your Kona EV getting 0-60 in 7 seconds is not by any stretch of the imagination “fast”. It’s just faster than your old Ford Focus.

For the record, yes I do accelerate to the speed limit and rarely speed deliberately. I have a Cupra Born that gets to 60 in about 7 seconds and the 50-70 times are slower than my old BMW 4 Series 2.0d.

Just setting the record straight on some of these EV performance myths. No hard feeling and have a good Christmas period.
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I never did follow that myth that all EVs are sports car performance (Dacia Spring? :cry:). My point, which may not have come across well, is that EV cars have made super car like acceleration far more accessible to more of the population.

Example - Tesla Model Y can give you 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, a 50-70mph time of 1.5 seconds :eek: and can be had for £61k list brand new for that model (Performance). What would you have to spend on an ICE car to get that same level of acceleration? (I genuinely have no idea)
 
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I do get that EVs give better 0-60 and especially 0-30 performance with the instant torque. Ultimately anyone with £50k to spend on any car had access to that level of performance already.

The majority of EVs are quite mundane things that are only better when judged against the typical average car in the UK. My take on your point was that EVs are giving too much performance to too many idiots? Apologies if I got that wrong.

Another factor that matters is how many super car performance BEVs you are likely to encounter. BEVs are about 5% of total UK cars and of those 1 in 5 are Tesla according to stats. I would suggest a significant minority of all BEVs have super car levels of performance.
 
depends how quickly you react to overtake situations too, 70 yds back isn't much to indicate and pull into a lane without causing the person to have to cautionary brake especially in poor visibility/rain,
if you are indicating and moving simultaneously despite being a tesla they aren't going to react that fast to block you, you are dropping off most ev's torque curve at nsl speeds.
(had first ever eye test in a field of vision machine this week - I guess I passed but would be good if they told you reaction times, henson 9000 machine @boots)

Gotta ask who posts messages on X about someone walking in the road , did they do that while driving - sounds blue rinsey.

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This am empty Tanker lorry visibly converging from side-road, he thought he was going to emerge somehow without stopping at 20mph, or so - then saw me and
braked stuck out by a couple of metres which I skirted around. - maybe my hair looks blue under led lights.
 
Just going to point out that those speeds are when charged. My model 3 performance does accelerate noticeably slower when the charge is lower, I'm at about 30% this morning and overtaking something doing 45 in a nsl took twice as long due to it not being topped up. The reduced acceleration does tend to get glossed over by people though.
 
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Just going to point out that those speeds are when charged. My model 3 performance does accelerate noticeably slower when the charge is lower, I'm at about 30% this morning and overtaking something doing 45 in a nsl took twice as long due to it not being topped up. The reduced acceleration does tend to get glossed over by people though.
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Not knowing what a car's performance characteristics are going to be in a given situation is kind of worrying.
 
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