Advice on upgrading my PC.

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Purchase Timeframe: Next couple of months.

Budget: 1500-3000£.

Usage: Gaming + want to start streaming once upgraded, playing rust at the minute.

Preferences: Nvidia over AMD.

Current Hardware:

Intel® Core™ i9-14900KF - 24-Core
CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 360 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler
MSI Pro B760-P II: ATX w/USB3.2, 2x M.2
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5200mhz Kingston Fury Beast Memory
InWin P85FII 850W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 Gaming Power Supply
MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER - 12GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3 (Single Card)

I have always bought pre built PC's as I love gaming but have no idea about the insides of one but have recently come to the realization that you lose out on a lot of money + power doing this. I get about 100-110fps on rust with mid-low graphics without streaming with a 144hz monitor and would like to bump that up so that I can comfortably sit at my monitor hz while streaming in the future. Maybe even upgrade my monitor to 240hz so get the fps above 200. Bought the set up for 1700£ almost 2 years ago and it's time to get some more power and I feel like it's a waste buying a brand new set up when I can just build from here. I have also had a problem in the last few months where I could be watching something on YouTube and as I minimize the browser to do something in the background the PC just freezes and makes a beep sound then comes back after clicking a few times on the minimize. Happens quite often could be something that needs replacing also?
 
One thing that i know about Rust is that it loves the AMD X3D Cpus. Rust alos uses RAM a lot, not sure how much your streaming software will use but you might need 48-64GB of RAM.
 
One thing that i know about Rust is that it loves the AMD X3D Cpus. Rust alos uses RAM a lot, not sure how much your streaming software will use but you might need 48-64GB of RAM.
I have barely any clue about PC's. If I ended up getting more RAM and the AMD processor would I need to get other things for compatibility or just those two things would fit into everything else at the minute? Is the GPU fine?
 
You're going to have to spend a lot of dosh to upgrade that meaningfully. 14900KF is still near the top of the line and a 4070 Super isn't far off.

Agree that the X3D does help a lot in some specific games/scenarios, but not sure that's worth the swap.
 
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100+ FPS is nothing to be sniffed at. And tbh I'd just leave it alone for now.
Yes you can spend more to get something better but it's not worth it
 
100+ FPS is nothing to be sniffed at. And tbh I'd just leave it alone for now.
Yes you can spend more to get something better but it's not worth it
Yeah It's not too bad for when just gaming but I want to stream in the future and that'll just be too much I think to get solid FPS and a solid stream going.
 
I just ran rust for the first time today and got 60-70fps constantly for some reason, there'll be times where I got 100 consistently and it's alright but the times it's dropping below it's so choppy, that's the main problem. Add stream on top and it's unplayable.
 
You should be getting a bit more then that i would think. I would look at settings and make sure that everything is correct first. Look at XMP profiles for ram, temp for CPU, That GPU is working correctly. I recently had poor FPS, found that somehow my GPU had been underclocked, set to defults and got my FPS back.
 
You might be better off setting up a cheap secondary PC as a streaming/capture rig, I'm pretty sure you could slap a cheap gpu and capture card into an old office PC even and it'd alleviate any strain your current PC is under while streaming.

Rust is notoriously difficult to run, a 9800X3D might help but I'm not convinced it'll be by a huge amount considering the cost.
 
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You should be getting a bit more then that i would think. I would look at settings and make sure that everything is correct first. Look at XMP profiles for ram, temp for CPU, That GPU is working correctly. I recently had poor FPS, found that somehow my GPU had been underclocked, set to defults and got my FPS back.
Checked everything, all is good. I'll try overclock in MSI Afterburner for some extra power if possible.
 
You might be better off setting up a cheap secondary PC as a streaming/capture rig, I'm pretty sure you could slap a cheap gpu and capture card into an old office PC even and it'd alleviate any strain your current PC is under while streaming.

Rust is notoriously difficult to run, a 9800X3D might help but I'm not convinced it'll be by a huge amount considering the cost.
I do have an old PC in my closet that I could possibly use, might have to go with that at this point. I just see some of these dudes getting 200 FPS on rust and I'm jealous, I wanna get at least 144 consistently.
 
Purchase Timeframe: Next couple of months.

Budget: 1500-3000£.

Usage: Gaming + want to start streaming once upgraded, playing rust at the minute.

Preferences: Nvidia over AMD.

Current Hardware:

Intel® Core™ i9-14900KF - 24-Core
CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 360 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler
MSI Pro B760-P II: ATX w/USB3.2, 2x M.2
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5200mhz Kingston Fury Beast Memory
InWin P85FII 850W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 Gaming Power Supply
MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER - 12GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3 (Single Card)

I have always bought pre built PC's as I love gaming but have no idea about the insides of one but have recently come to the realization that you lose out on a lot of money + power doing this. I get about 100-110fps on rust with mid-low graphics without streaming with a 144hz monitor and would like to bump that up so that I can comfortably sit at my monitor hz while streaming in the future. Maybe even upgrade my monitor to 240hz so get the fps above 200. Bought the set up for 1700£ almost 2 years ago and it's time to get some more power and I feel like it's a waste buying a brand new set up when I can just build from here. I have also had a problem in the last few months where I could be watching something on YouTube and as I minimize the browser to do something in the background the PC just freezes and makes a beep sound then comes back after clicking a few times on the minimize. Happens quite often could be something that needs replacing also?

You're wasting your money, you might as well use £50 notes to light your cuban cigars
 
I do have an old PC in my closet that I could possibly use, might have to go with that at this point. I just see some of these dudes getting 200 FPS on rust and I'm jealous, I wanna get at least 144 consistently.

Have you tried following a guide like this:


All sorts of weird crap can negatively effect performance in Rust, I'd give this a go through and see how you get on, it's relevant to your 14900K specifically.

Unfortunately you have really, really slow DDR5 too, looking into clocking that higher if possible might be another avenue, but with a prebuild you might have limited options in that regard. Regardless, I'd follow the above guide before going that route, just hold in mind that it might be beneficial.
 
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I'm not sure you need an upgrade. The 14900KF is still a top-end CPU and your 4070 Super is still a very good GPU. Prices for GPUs are silly right now anyway.

I just see some of these dudes getting 200 FPS on rust and I'm jealous, I wanna get at least 144 consistently.

If you are having fun then the rest is just gravy.
 
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