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At what point did I moan? I was asking a question. Thanks for the non answer.
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to answer your question specifically, it depends on when you charge. obvs off peak is going to be much cheaper than peak times
looking at my tesla app now, with my model 3, tesla are charging 41p/kwh during peak times and between 21p and 28p off-peak
so assume 4 miles per kwh average (in reality i'm getting slightly more even during winter), that's 10p/mile if you charge during peak hours, and 5-7p/mile if you charge off peak
if you have a home charger, you'd be paying about 2p/mile (8p/kwh)
for a petrol car at 35mpg at 150p/L that's 20p/mile
for a diesel car at 40mpg at 190p/L that's 17p/mile
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Thank you for the detailed answer, so probably past the tipping point now.yes mom
to answer your question specifically, it depends on when you charge. obvs off peak is going to be much cheaper than peak times
looking at my tesla app now, with my model 3, tesla are charging 41p/kwh during peak times and between 21p and 28p off-peak
so assume 4 miles per kwh average (in reality i'm getting slightly more even during winter), that's 10p/mile if you charge during peak hours, and 5-7p/mile if you charge off peak
if you have a home charger, you'd be paying about 2p/mile (8p/kwh)
for a petrol car at 35mpg at 150p/L that's 20p/mile
for a diesel car at 40mpg at 190p/L that's 17p/mile
Getting a EV without home charging is pointless. Ignoring the cost you the guy sat in a car park for an hour to charge your car
Thanks for the lack of research example
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as is always the case, do the maths before and don't rely on anyone else
for me personally, the depreciation (or lack thereof, as i bought it used), fuel savings, insurance savings and servicing savings just sweetened the deal for my man maths
going from my 440i to my model 3 the cost to change was £600 (sold my 440i for £20k, my model 3 cost £20.6k) and from the depreciation graphs when i was researching, a 3 year old EV had the same depreciation curve as its ICE equivalent going forwards as someone already paid for the massive depreciation in the 3 years prior
installing an EV charger at home was £1k
the insurance was £400 cheaper on the model 3
saved £260/yr on not paying the bmw insured warranty
saving about £400/yr as no yearly servicing required
4k miles travelled on my model 3 to date about 8 months
total electricity cost: £86 - this includes a handful of supercharging stops i did during the summer
the equivalent in my 440i (lifetime average was 32mpg using RON98/99...assume about 150p/L) = £848
so basically in 8 months, i'm already quids in (saved about £260) and the difference is going to get larger as the running costs (insurance, servicing, fuel) is so much cheaper with an EV for me. as always, YMMV
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Considering you now charge a Tesla fully in around 30mins, that’s not much of a hardship. Anyway if you’re just going to insult please run along
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It’ll be cheaper, but not the cheapest solution. If you can handle just doing public charging and the change of driving lifestyle it brings then now could be the time to switch.
Doing it without a home charger isn’t pointless, it just isn’t the gold standard. Food for thought!
Prices aren't terrible if you use the cheaper public charging solutions, but that means having something close to you that is cheaper, and potentially taking advantage of off-peak pricing if it doesn't cause you too much inconvenience. Efficiency also comes into it more, if you have something like an old Etron 55 that barely get 2.3mpkWh vs Tesla Model 3 at 4.0-4.5mpkWh, you'll spend a lot less for the same mileage.
I know someone that solely uses the Tesla chargers at Frankley services which is 22ppkWh off-peak with a membership, he charges it once a week on a Saturday or Sunday, only needs to use other public charging is he is doing something out of the ordinary. He sometimes uses a Zaphome charger (someone else's house charger basically) but that costs the same and takes way longer.
Where’s the insult ? It’s advice based on owning a EV. Welcome to the club. You can at least play whoopie cushion noises when you charge
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30’ in a car park. It’s still eating into life
Exactly. Not highlighting it as a downside would be pretty ironic when the time savings not having to fill a car with fuel are so often cited as being a huge benefit having gone EV.
Then again... Sometimes just sitting in the car on my own for half an hour sounds like bliss
Well you are comparing the same cost per mile and a 5 min fill up vs at least 30. More like an hour to fully charge to 100% Where’s the benefit?
Your wife going to be alright in the wet and snow
Enjoy though decent price that
Only thing that would annoy me coming from my BMW is no heads up display on windscreen on Tesla its a feature ive come to love?
I have a very long list of “must haves” that I always end up not missing at all when they are gone.
Matrix lights
360 cameras
HUD
Blind spot monitoring
Heated seats
Leather upholstery
Heated steering wheel
Memory electric seats
Air suspension
Lumbar support
Upgraded premium sound system
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Older Model S, yes.
Most cars with free super charging will be coming on the end end of their battery warranty if it’s not already expired.
There are a few issues cropping up on those older cars that need preventative maintenance.
Some fuse covers on the battery packs are rusting through causing water ingress into the pack itself and leading to a very expensive bill of out of warranty.
It’s defo recommended to get it inspected and replaced before the battery warranty expires.
Most cars with free super charging will be coming on the end end of their battery warranty if it’s not already expired.
There are a few issues cropping up on those older cars that need preventative maintenance.
Some fuse covers on the battery packs are rusting through causing water ingress into the pack itself and leading to a very expensive bill of out of warranty.
It’s defo recommended to get it inspected and replaced before the battery warranty expires.
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Seems like a simple maths problem, if the cost of a new battery is less than you'd have paid for leccy over those years then it's a no brainer.
This of course assumes that Tesla doesn't scrap it one day which let's be honest, is very possible.
They can’t, it’s contractual. There are so few of these cars left on the road, it’s hardly a massive cost centre anyway.
Those that do have free charging typically charge at home anyway for obvious reasons.
You’ll never recover the price of a new battery pack from free charging anyway. Particularly if you can charge from home because the saving is only really 5-8p not 40p at Telsa or 80p everywhere else for the vast majority of your miles.
Those that do have free charging typically charge at home anyway for obvious reasons.
You’ll never recover the price of a new battery pack from free charging anyway. Particularly if you can charge from home because the saving is only really 5-8p not 40p at Telsa or 80p everywhere else for the vast majority of your miles.
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The I-Pace will meet all of those if you get the right spec model. Some post covid ones do lack a few features but I think they were all back in the last models coming off the production run.I have a very long list of “must haves” that I always end up not missing at all when they are gone.
Matrix lights
360 cameras
HUD
Blind spot monitoring
Heated seats
Leather upholstery
Heated steering wheel
Memory electric seats
Air suspension
Lumbar support
Upgraded premium sound system