My understanding is that the FSD software is very different to Basic Autopilot and EAP, I certainly hope so anyway!
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My understanding is that the FSD software is very different to Basic Autopilot and EAP, I certainly hope so anyway!
Under £20k apparently, so it'll give the Twingo some competition.
It is, they are not even remotely comparable in terms of performance.
What we have installed on U.K. cars hasn’t materially changed in 7 years.
Supervised FSD actually works and very well.
Oh wow lol that's basically when the fiest model 3s were released.
Personally EAP isn't a relaxing drive at all. I find myself needing to keep more alert with eap on than to just drive it "normally"
Pretty much yes.
Few tweaks here and there to things like attention checks but the fundamental driving logic is broadly the same.
It’s taken them that long to get FSD working in just America. Remember musk said it was coming within a year back in 2017 (and 18,19,20,21,22,23 and 24, at least he got there in the end).
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not forgetting the hardware in the model3 changed though (did that genuinely not impact fsd performance) went from radar to cheaped-out cameras/algorithms that
couldn't determined the triangulated distance of other vehicles, and meanwhile the opposition is going Lidar.
couldn't determined the triangulated distance of other vehicles, and meanwhile the opposition is going Lidar.
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true but does it really matter (other than for Tesla investors or those who bought on Musks promise that buying full FSD was an investment allowing their car to earn them money ). Right now it's all just driver aids anyway. Despite the name no car has full self driving in the UK , and if you look at them like that then camera is good enough.
sure my dream of never having to teach my lad to drive (or pay the insane insurance cost), as well as my car taking me to and bringing me home from the pub is likely further away than i hoped.... but if you are in the market for a car then the camera only driver assists in a Tesla are perfectly fine and just as good as in other comparably priced cars.
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Don’t worry. I don’t think they forgot.
It was also lidar, not radar. But then it's jpaul, so god only knows.
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I want a car with an old school green display which pings objects in my local vicinity with a red blob
WW2 naval driving aids FTW !
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... full Sigourney detector.
it wasn't a big blob on the body/roof of the car , which I associate (misplacedly?) with lidar where you have dipole spinning, like a ship
e: BS^ https://eos.com/blog/lidar-vs-radar/ so just different frequency of operation
... In Musk they trust
Lidar and radar reduce safety due to sensor contention. If lidars/radars disagree with cameras, which one wins?
This sensor ambiquity causes increased, not decreased, risk. That's why Waymos can't drive on highways.
We turned off the radars in Teslas to increase safety. Show
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radar it seemed https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/3...y-from-radar-and-lidar-to-go-all-in-on-vision
e: BS^ https://eos.com/blog/lidar-vs-radar/ so just different frequency of operation
... In Musk they trust
Lidar and radar reduce safety due to sensor contention. If lidars/radars disagree with cameras, which one wins?
This sensor ambiquity causes increased, not decreased, risk. That's why Waymos can't drive on highways.
We turned off the radars in Teslas to increase safety. Show
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Yeah life's far too short to engage with that nonsense.
I do find it quite amusing that despite half the forum calling you out on your gibberish on almost a daily basis, you seem to lack the mental abilities to reflect on your own posting style.
There are words to describe people like this, I'm sure you've heard them plenty of times.
I do find it quite amusing that despite half the forum calling you out on your gibberish on almost a daily basis, you seem to lack the mental abilities to reflect on your own posting style.
There are words to describe people like this, I'm sure you've heard them plenty of times.
I haven't tried it first hand, but FSD seems to work very well in the US. There are some limitations to the camera systems, but it works well combined with the software and Tesla are really the only company with a system like this on the market.
I'm hoping we aren't too far behind in approving it (but we probably will be), I'd be keen to try it. It'll likely be a £99/month subscription as well, which is easier to stomach than the £6800 upfront!
I'm hoping we aren't too far behind in approving it (but we probably will be), I'd be keen to try it. It'll likely be a £99/month subscription as well, which is easier to stomach than the £6800 upfront!
Thy didn’t.
Only a handful of cars use lidar, they are all relatively new and I’m pretty sure they all utilise the ‘taxi sign’ approach of fitting them to the car. Some cars really look like that section will light up when they are plying for hire.
The ultrasonics were also only ever used by the parking assist function. The camera based parking assist was terrible to begin with but it’s actuality excellent these days.
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Yes, you're right. I thought Tesla were trialling it for a while and then abandoned it for cost reasons, could've sworn I read an article to that effect a couple of years ago.
the lidar is spinning within the roof blob, like a ship for 360degrees.
Id'd not read this before on why they abandonned that generations radar
Id'd not read this before on why they abandonned that generations radar
so not just metallic crisp packets(liked mercs), also explanation for fsd crashes going under lorries.
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Car with the worse number of phantom breaking doesn’t have RADAR… how’s that for an example.
Volvo recently dropped the LIDAR pod from the roof of the XC90.
Volvo recently dropped the LIDAR pod from the roof of the XC90.
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So I didn’t go for the Tesla in the end, as my wife struggled to get in and out of it. So went for a 2023 polestar 2 single motor long range instead, will be charging at a 46p 150KWh charger for the time being(once a week), as I have found out even though I don’t have off street parking I can still get a charger installed and will use a rubber gully mat to stop trips until kerbocharge are available in my area.