EV general discussion

[richyfingers]

Picked up the wife's Tesla model 3 RWD on the recent good lease deal. Very impressed overall although is taking a bit of getting used to the layout. Doesn't seem particularly intuitive at the moment but guess it will just take some getting used to.

 

[Minstadave]

Used my Electroverse account this week for the first time since signing up ages ago. Very impressed with its reliability and even discounted charging rates.

Charger this afternoon was a Chargepoint one, theyre really dodgy, always holding £10 on your account and had a fraudulent charging session billed to my account last year. Wasnt going to use the charger but checked the Electroverse app and it was super simple, no Chargepoint BS and 8% off.

 

[Teknobry]

if you don't need the range you don't have to go too mad on cost.
something like a refreshed ioniq around 2021 with the larger 38kwh battery should be gettable around £10k mark.

I say if you don't need the range..... that should still manage 150 winter miles

38kwh battery getting 150 miles in winter?!

No chance. Q4 I had barely did 190-210 with double that capacity.

 

[Journey]

38kwh battery getting 150 miles in winter?!

No chance. Q4 I had barely did 190-210 with double that capacity.

Ioniq is mega efficient, 150 miles was easily manageable across normal weekly driving.

 

[ICDP]

This is

38kwh battery getting 150 miles in winter?!

No chance. Q4 I had barely did 190-210 with double that capacity.

The original Ioniq is incredibly efficient but that 150 winter miles of range is still very optimistic. At best from new they would get a combined 150 miles of range in winter. But that’s when driven like a granny on her way to get her cateracts checked.

On an older used Ioniq 38 with the expected degradation, then more like 130 winter miles if driven to allow for a small buffer.

 

[ICDP]

Ioniq is mega efficient, 150 miles was easily manageable across normal weekly driving.

Not in winter on a used model. We need to be honest here on this forum when giving people purchasing advice on an item that is still worth many thousands of pounds.

 

[Simon]

Ioniq is mega efficient, 150 miles was easily manageable across normal weekly driving.

Aka a tiny car

 

[Journey]

Not in winter on a used model. We need to be honest here on this forum when giving people purchasing advice on an item that is still worth many thousands of pounds.

Eh? I've owned one from new for 6 years, it easily managed 150 miles in winter.

 

[Teknobry]

I'm not convinced a 5 year old car in the winter with heating on is getting 4mi/kwh.
Suppose it depends on the average speed of the journeys but I'm only seeing that level of efficiency in the summer.
Are they really that good?

 

[Journey]

I'm not convinced a 5 year old car in the winter with heating on is getting 4mi/kwh.

They only way some people would be is owning one, they are one of the most efficient EV's made so far with only Tesla being close/better. They are also pretty large storage wise thanks to the hatchback opening, lots of taxi driver use them these days.

UK winter drive in 5 year old car.

Older version, 2017 car tested last year, 217k km on it.

Summer test 70-plated car tested in 2024

Winter/wet test when new in Norway.

 

[Simon]

The car is small and light with skinny tyresso yes the normal power train needs less energy to move them

Bit like how a superbike uses less fuel than a van

Work colleague also gets impressive m/kwh. Think he does 180-190 in summer on commute

 

[casper_uk]

I'm not convinced a 5 year old car in the winter with heating on is getting 4mi/kwh.
Suppose it depends on the average speed of the journeys but I'm only seeing that level of efficiency in the summer.
Are they really that good?

There is a reason they are nicknamed the wind knife. Super efficient cars.

 

[bigmike20vt]

38kwh battery getting 150 miles in winter?!

No chance. Q4 I had barely did 190-210 with double that capacity.

similar to my ipace (3.5miles.per kWh in summer, 2.6miles per kWh in winter. different car tho innit?!

 

[bigmike20vt]

Aka a tiny car

I wouldn't say tiny.... it's a mid sized family hatch imo. certainly bigger than our i3 and probably similar in terms of practicality with our old pug 308.
(I wanted to get one but my wife wanted a hybrid and I wanted something with essentially 100 miles pure electric range which ruled out the hybrid version.)

My wife now admits getting a hybrid was a mistake and our next run around will be a proper EV.

 

[ICDP]

Eh? I've owned one from new for 6 years, it easily managed 150 miles in winter.

Managed past tense, or still manages?

I am admittedly going from EVDB and my experience of 5 different EVs has them right on what EVDB states as range.

 

[tom_e]

Managed past tense, or still manages?

I am admittedly going from EVDB and my experience of 5 different EVs has them right on what EVDB states as range.

Well winter was in the past, I'd hope right now it's doing better than that

 

[ICDP]

Well winter was in the past, I'd hope right now it's doing better than that

I think you know what I meant

Hence why I asked for clarification.

Like I said EVDB tends to be pretty spot on from my experience of multiple EVs. EVDB states 140 winter miles (at -10c admittedly) for a new Ioniq 38. An older 4-6 year old one with typical ~5% - 10% degradation is not going to be getting that.