Poll: CCTV shows officer punching woman

Do you think the police officer was in the right?

  • Yes

    Votes: 415 85.0%
  • No

    Votes: 73 15.0%

  • Total voters
    488
Gaygle said:
Great, a guys career is probably ruined, i bet he's utterly embarrassed and, oh yeah, another copper off the street...

In the long wrong the complaint will be binned off but it wouldn't have got anywhere on the first place if the "AP" (Aggreived Party) hadn't gone to the press.

Although his name has been published at least his pciture hasn't so he won't be easily identified by the public. Right now the Police Federation will be fighting his corner.
 
some drunk urinated against my back gate then puked his guts right outside the gate...where were the police to give him a hiding!! because the dirty selfish drunk deserved one..people have no respect for themselves or other people, and this drunk was no different..instead of going home when she was ejected for being drunk she vandalised somebody elses property then fought with a police officer..if she had just gone with him the other officers wouldnt have even needed to get involved, but insted she wants a fight because she is so drunk and had no idea what she is doing...she brought the entire incident upon herself by her actions and bad behaviour
 
Slinwagh said:
There should be no inquiry as no officer did anything wrong.

That's crap imo. I just saw the video (didn't see the video link before). When he hits her there are 3 other officers there. 2 of them are holding her down and one is just standing there watching. 4 grown men should be able to secure a drunken woman without having to punch her 5 times.

I know drunk people can be complete scum like at times but it's not like the officer was going at it alone.

If that was the only way that situation could've been resolved then the force seriously needs to rethink it's procedures.
 
Disgusting, should make a stand and stick by the policeman in question. Events like this open the flood gates to others making similar claims. Police officers won't be able to arrest people in fear of a flailing arm making contact so the criminal can claim assualt.

They have gone about it completely the wrong way imo. This situation wouldn't have even arisen if 1) the girl hadn't been black (debateable anyway) and 2) she hadn't been epileptic (shouldn't have been drinking) :mad:

The fact that she was ejected from a club and caused damage to someone elses property has been overlooked, she is NOT a victim but IS a criminal.
 
z0mbi3 said:
That's crap imo. I just saw the video (didn't see the video link before). When he hits her there are 3 other officers there. 2 of them are holding her down and one is just standing there watching. 4 grown men should be able to secure a drunken woman without having to punch her 5 times.

I know drunk people can be complete scum like at times but it's not like the officer was going at it alone.

If that was the only way that situation could've been resolved then the force seriously needs to rethink it's procedures.

LMAO have you ever tried to restrain a drunk person? me n some mates have had to do it a few times not on the floor of cource but dragging people away women are imo a lot harder to restrain than men lol there a lot more flexible
 
She acted like a fool and she got treated like one simple. However, i would expect less punch from the police...not five.
 
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z0mbi3 said:
That's crap imo. I just saw the video (didn't see the video link before). When he hits her there are 3 other officers there. 2 of them are holding her down and one is just standing there watching. 4 grown men should be able to secure a drunken woman without having to punch her 5 times.

I know drunk people can be complete scum like at times but it's not like the officer was going at it alone.

If that was the only way that situation could've been resolved then the force seriously needs to rethink it's procedures.

Im afraid that is rubbish, I have been there and done it and I can tell you now that there is nothing harder the restraing someone in this sort of situation. If it was that easy the police would not have to be trained to use physical force to restrain people.

The reason why so many officers are there is to restain her, generally someone will try and control her legs and someone will try to control her arms, if there are enough officers then 1 officer per arm and leg, that being said you still need to take "control" of the limb and as she was struggling the officer struck her to gain control.

An approved, tried and tested method that causes only a very short term injury, a bruise.
 
Fireskull said:
LMAO have you ever tried to restrain a drunk person? me n some mates have had to do it a few times not on the floor of cource but dragging people away women are imo a lot harder to restrain than men lol there a lot more flexible

Doesn't matter. The police are there to restrain her and get the cuffs on. 2 of them are holding her, 1's trying to get the cuffs on and 1 is standing there watching. There's no chance that the only way of resolving it was by punching her 5 times - not with the man power there.

Slinwagh said:
Im afraid that is rubbish, I have been there and done it and I can tell you now that there is nothing harder the restraing someone in this sort of situation. If it was that easy the police would not have to be trained to use physical force to restrain people.

The reason why so many officers are there is to restain her, generally someone will try and control her legs and someone will try to control her arms, if there are enough officers then 1 officer per arm and leg, that being said you still need to take "control" of the limb and as she was struggling the officer struck her to gain control.

An approved, tried and tested method that causes only a very short term injury, a bruise.

4 trained men should be able to do it without resulting to brute force punches, especially when it comes to a women who's pinned to the floor. If the officer standing had held the arm she was trying to attack with then there would have been no need for her to be punched.
 
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z0mbi3 said:
Doesn't matter. The police are there to restrain her and get the cuffs on. 2 of them are holding her, 1's trying to get the cuffs on and 1 is standing there watching. There's no chance that the only way of resolving it was by punching her 5 times - not with the man power there.

Did you even read that she was trying to grab his balls?
 
z0mbi3 said:
Doesn't matter. The police are there to restrain her and get the cuffs on. 2 of them are holding her, 1's trying to get the cuffs on and 1 is standing there watching. There's no chance that the only way of resolving it was by punching her 5 times - not with the man power there.

How do you cuff and arm that is not under control! As you have said two were restaing the her the other officer was trying to restain her and there was a forth officer who more than likey would be waiting to cuff her.

Like I have said I am talking from expierience.
 
Slinwagh said:
How do you cuff and arm that is not under control! As you have said two were restaing the her the other officer was trying to restain her and there was a forth officer who more than likey would be waiting to cuff her.

Like I have said I am talking from expierience.

Why couldn't the fourth officer have held the free arm? There were enough officers there to control each limb.
 
z0mbi3 said:
I did. Point is there's more than enough man power there to secure her without punching her 5 times.

OK generally speaking the way force is applied is physical restraint, Gas, batton.

They struggled with the pyhsical restraing hence the punches, gas was out of the equation becasue other officers would have been gassed.

So now we are at the stage where the batton could have been used, is that better for you?

Now are 5 punches to the arm/leg that bad now?
 
z0mbi3 said:
Why couldn't the fourth officer have held the free arm? There were enough officers there to control each limb.

Maybie so but in the moment and if your balls are in danger lol id deaden her arm to get get cuffed
 
I agree with Slinwagh, unless you have actually tried to restrain someone in that situation, then you have no idea how hard it is. I have witnessed 6'4" doormen being reduced to tears from being bitten by a 7 stone, 5' girl. When drink or drugs are factored into the equation, things get scary.

This isn't a boxing match with rules, I suspect very few people commenting about how easy it is to restrain someone that doesn't want to be haven't had a person completely out of it going mental at them. It isn't easy as it sounds and it takes a lot of bottle to remain calm and controlled. I think the officer was in this case.
 
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z0mbi3 said:
Why couldn't the fourth officer have held the free arm? There were enough officers there to control each limb.

Because in all likely hood he was the officer with the hand cuff ready.

Beleive me struggling with person, trying to restain them and get your cuffs out is very, very hard to say the least!
 
Slinwagh said:
OK generally speaking the way force is applied is physical restraint, Gas, batton.

They struggled with the pyhsical restraing hence the punches, gas was out of the equation becasue other officers would have been gassed.

So now we are at the stage where the batton could have been used, is that better for you?

Now are 5 punches to the arm/leg that bad now?

Sorry but I don't agree with that. Just because they could have smacked her with the batton or sprayed her doesn't mean they did the right thing by punching her.

If the fourth officer had secured her free arm then they wouldn't have need to hit her. Simple. Even if he was waiting to aplpy the cuffs there are other officers there.

All I see from that video is that it takes 3 officers to hold a woman down and hit her.
 
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