India / Pakistan division

@if ®afiq · 24 Aug 2007 at 14:11

VIRII said:
I think you'll find that it is not just skin pigmentation that can put on the blinkers, indeed religon seems even better at it

I would say they can both be on par - however not all religous people think themselves superior , but all those who take pride in their pigmentation do. That's a massive difference.

VIRII said:
Of course "spreading Islam" wasn't wrong was it, invading other countries and making your culture/beleifs dominant ..... it's ok when people you side with do it..... hypocrite.

If you can't keep OT, then don't bother posting...taking cheap ignorant shots is just pathetic.

Mikoyan · 24 Aug 2007 at 14:33

your topics are flying all over the place VIRII

JohnnyG · 24 Aug 2007 at 14:49

Psycho Sonny said:
its where i stay and me and my boys are feared by every nightclub bouncer in glasgow, there is only 1 nightlcub that will let us in, we have been knocked back from clubs over 500 times and we are given stupid excuses like, your not dressed smart enough when im wearing jeans and a top and they just let a caucasian into the club in front of me and he was wearing a hoody and a rucksack,

can anyone explain why Punjabi's arent allowed into any nightclub in glasgow unless they know the bouncers? its because they know if anyone messes with us they are gonna have to try and control us and we gonna tear them a new one

Have you ever thought they might not want you in their clubs are you're obviously a trouble maker, that or because you don't spend any real money on alcohol at the bar of course

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:44

Spawn said:
nvm

Hmm deleted your little rant I see.
If atif can talk about racism and how it colours peoples viewpoints and loyalties then I can certainly contrast it with how religion does the same thing.

Now if you wish to rant at me in that fashion do it to my face.

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:46

@if ®afiq said:
I would say they can both be on par - however not all religous people think themselves superior , but all those who take pride in their pigmentation do. That's a massive difference.

Do they? Does every native american, eskimo, aborigine etc who is proud of his origins consider himself superior? What utter rubbish.

@if ®afiq said:
If you can't keep OT, then don't bother posting...taking cheap ignorant shots is just pathetic.

Ignorant? Why is it ignorant? You made a point about loyalties being based on skin colour I simply pointed out that many are made by religious bias too.
It seems you can't handle the other side of the coin but never stop with the race card.
That truely is pathetic.

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:47

Mikoyan said:
your topics are flying all over the place VIRII

Hehe. I simply present an alternative viewpoint to those who play the racecard at every opportunity but who fly off the handle if their religion is ever so much as put in the same light.

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:49

Spawn said:
Sadly i think thats where your pretty much wrong...it would have taken them longer to get where they are now without the British but in the end they would have got there. I guess the only thing India can thank the British for is speeding up the process of western ties ie economically etc. Albeit it came at a price ie one country being split into two.

Because if they had never been colonised then the Muslim, Sikh and Hindhus would never have suffered all the infighting? They were at it long before the British came.
How would the indians have got there? They had no technology whatsoever, no unity, no military, no industry......

DarkShadow · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:51

Psycho Sonny said:
The Sikh's now want their own state and it will be named Khalistan
It will never happen
Why?
Because Sikh's are the most feared people in the world and have been put down constantly, if they were to get their own country they would become soooooo strong they would take over Pakistan and kill all the muslims

Haha

How alpha is this guy?

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 16:52

dark_shadow said:
Haha

How alpha is this guy?

He's a perfect example of multicultural harmony and why it'll never be.

wassap · 24 Aug 2007 at 18:14

VIRII said:
He's a perfect example of multicultural harmony and why it'll never be.

I fail to see how? he just comes across as a bit of a (choose your own word here

), who generally span all races,creeds etc?

@if ®afiq · 24 Aug 2007 at 18:16

dark_shadow said:
Haha

How alpha is this guy?

Well is a Psycho

VIRII · 24 Aug 2007 at 18:51

wohoo said:
I fail to see how? he just comes across as an idiot, who generally span all races,creeds etc?

I'm not sure you can use those terms without risking a suspension however he does display a strong dislike for muslims and as long as there are plenty of people from the various immigrant cultures living here who bring their historical hatreds with them then we will have no harmony.

The Running Man · 24 Aug 2007 at 19:06

lol that guys funny - why would you try and get into a bar 500 times? surely you'd have given up after the first few?

wassap · 24 Aug 2007 at 19:39

I remember reading somewhere, the India has one of the largest Muslim population in the world, aside from the few flash backs they have every decade or so, they seem to be getting on with things? which makes the animosity between india and pakistan even more confusing.

I'm not sure you can use those terms without risking a suspension however he does display a strong dislike for muslims and as long as there are plenty of people from the various immigrant cultures living here who bring their historical hatreds with them then we will have no harmony.

Oops, maybe the wrong term, I see the guy as a nutjob, of which there are plenty in this country anyway, dont see the link between multiculturalism,he could be like the idiot which was caught stockpiling weapons in Pendle upnorth.

RDM · 24 Aug 2007 at 21:04

Spawn said:
LOL yup thats basically really the gist of it, the british put into motion the partition after invading India. Obviously there more to it than that but suffice to say that if the British had kept their noses out at that time, then im pretty certain India and Pakistan still would be one nation.

You understanding of the Indian sub continents history is pretty poor. You are aware that India as a single nation didn't exist prior to 1947? The thing that allowed the British Empire to take over was the fact that it was a whole bunch of little princedoms normally at each others throats? Standard divide and conquer tactics from the British at the time.

Psycho Sonny · 25 Aug 2007 at 00:31

JohnnyG said:
Have you ever thought they might not want you in their clubs are you're obviously a trouble maker, that or because you don't spend any real money on alcohol at the bar of course

like i said i aint been in a fight in over a year and a half, and as for the money part, our last night out consisted of, zen teppenyaki (restauarant at rotunda casino) the bill for food and drink came to £2000, after that we went to the casino dont know how much was spent in there, but im pretty sure money was gained, after that we were going to go to seventh heaven (lap dancing club) but it was far too late so we went to karbon, average price of a round was £60 and there was 16 of us altogether

Psycho Sonny · 25 Aug 2007 at 00:33

Nickg said:
lol that guys funny - why would you try and get into a bar 500 times? surely you'd have given up after the first few?

sometimes you get let in, sometimes you dont, just depends on which bouncer is at the door, like for instance if im with my caucasian friends i will get into any club gauranteed if im with my punjabi friends 95% of clubs wont let us in unless we pair off into two's and try our luck 5 minutes after another

JohnnyG · 25 Aug 2007 at 11:24

Psycho Sonny said:
like i said i aint been in a fight in over a year and a half, and as for the money part, our last night out consisted of, zen teppenyaki (restauarant at rotunda casino) the bill for food and drink came to £2000, after that we went to the casino dont know how much was spent in there, but im pretty sure money was gained, after that we were going to go to seventh heaven (lap dancing club) but it was far too late so we went to karbon, average price of a round was £60 and there was 16 of us altogether

Sikhs drinking and gambling, whatever next.

VIRII · 25 Aug 2007 at 11:34

Psycho Sonny said:
like i said i aint been in a fight in over a year and a half, and as for the money part, our last night out consisted of, zen teppenyaki (restauarant at rotunda casino) the bill for food and drink came to £2000, after that we went to the casino dont know how much was spent in there, but im pretty sure money was gained, after that we were going to go to seventh heaven (lap dancing club) but it was far too late so we went to karbon, average price of a round was £60 and there was 16 of us altogether

I'm not sure on how the cost of the food and drinks changes the story?
Is it meant to impress us or show that you are nice professional people or what?
I can't help but think that you are desperate to create an image of yourself as some uber hard gangsta with cash to burn.
It seems a little "needy".
Maybe it's a cultural thing as it reminds me of another poster of your background who comes across as desperate to show "wealth".

Yas786 · 25 Aug 2007 at 13:17

VIRII said:
Hmm deleted your little rant I see.
If atif can talk about racism and how it colours peoples viewpoints and loyalties then I can certainly contrast it with how religion does the same thing.

Now if you wish to rant at me in that fashion do it to my face.

Wasnt a rant

, posted something that wasnt on topic and thought no point in posting it so therefore deleted it, i am allowed to do that am i not?? :eek:

or have i broken some cardinal VIRII rule

.... anyways if you were expecting some sort of rant then im sorry to inform you that it was nothing of the kind

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