Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible
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Soldato
Well, you wanted to effectively silence all the pensioners who didn't vote for independence.
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Thought so.
Soldato
Thank you Surveyor! 
Do the mods have a tip jar?
Do the mods have a tip jar?
Associate
Nah. I would just prefer it if they weren't lied to about their pensions!
Soldato
Associate
Well done!
Do you plan on going back to read my posts?
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Surveyor is off to work again! 
It's going to be a long night for him!
It's going to be a long night for him!
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Soldato
Because they are stopping the younger generations from getting what a majority of them want.
I am sure it isn't malicious on their part but the end result is the same. It is understandable as older people are more easily mislead and taken advantage of. They also don't have the full range of information available to them unlike younger generations. They tend to form all of their views from what the BBC and the Daily Record tells them. Kudos to the 27% of them that saw through the fear mongering and voted to give the young a better chance in life.
Really? As it looks a lot more like you'd rather dismiss their views as not being aligned with your own, and deem them incapable of agreeing with you.
Soldato
It is a lot easier now. There are far fewer, but they're still all the same. Nationalist I can understand, bigoted I cannot accept.
Associate
No I was arguing that they generally don't get the full range of facts that younger people do, due to them forming most of their opinions based on what they read in the papers and watch on the TV.
This will of course change as more and more older people become internet savvy.
Why, in your view, am I a bigot?
Soldato
Because you want to exclude and marginalise their views because they don't agree with you.
Associate
I don't want to exclude them. I am just pointing out one of the reasons most of them vote the way they do.
Associate
I have to give it to Surveyor. He is quite efficient. My post count is fairly dropping!
The best bit about it though is he has to read all of my posts!
The best bit about it though is he has to read all of my posts!
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Because I am talking about a different subject.
Soldato
They're stopping you from getting what you want.
Apparently they're only misled in one direction.
And because they don't agree with you their view is invalid.
And when enough of them disagree with you then it is an inconvenience that should be ignored for the 'greater good of others'.
The UK (including Scotland) has some news for you. The older generations are not going away - they're increasing. http://visual.ons.gov.uk/uk-perspectives-the-changing-population/
Your continued view that their views are less relevant because, you claim, they won't know as much as other voters, is as discriminating as it is bigoted.
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I stand by everything I have written.
The older generations aren't going away no. But they will start becoming more informed as more and more of them understand how to get info from the net.
They were misled in one direction yes. Talking about older folk who don't have internet access, unless they read the Sunday Herald (The National wasn't around pre referendum) then they were exposed only to unionist news sources. That is just the way it was. It is a fact. Stating that doesn't make me a bigot.
It's a bit like if the OCUK forums were the only source of news in the world. Everyone would think the YES campaign was a fringe movement versus the reality of them commanding 45% of the vote.
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Incapable of thinking outside of the SNP echo chamber, incapable of changing subject in one post using the power of the English language, is there anything else you can't do?
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Soldato
You dismiss the value of people who are still relevant but you claim don't have the access to the same information others do. They're still relevant, unless you want to take the view of "there there dear, you don't understand what's best for you but don't worry because I do"
Damning indictment of the failure of the SNP's independence campaign there then.
No, it doesn't. But your reaction to how to deal with your 'problem' does. Wait for them to die.
On these forums your behaviour is doing an excellent job of created that very scenario. No engagement, all polarisation, alienation and antagonism. If Scotland wins independence in that manner she'll be isolated, have few friends and an angry native population, divided over both nationalism and demographics.
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