How well do you think young men would be coping in todays society without video games and porn?

Tosno said:
:eek::( now that is shocking, plastic surgery is beta, you have to be your best self as you can be, artificial "beauty" is gross. Fake up is already bad enough.
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I think that anyone who pays attention to their alpha/beta-ness is already - I suspect like most people - somewhat insecure. Everybody needs validation from their peers. As they say, no man is an island.

I'd be deeply suspicious of anyone who never experienced some self doubt, or was completely filled with self-confidence at all times. I'd question their intelligence, for one :p
 
All this Alpha/Beta crap (which I am mainly exposed to here as I don't use Reddit) is ridiculous.

Most of the people who go on about it probably aren't even with women.
 
Tosno, to his credit, is playing along a little bit. I won't take personal comments further but it's worth noting. There's also a RUS>ENG translation piece but again.
 
VincentHanna said:
All this Alpha/Beta crap (which I am mainly exposed to here as I don't use Reddit) is ridiculous.

Most of the people who go on about it probably aren't even with women.
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It's also interesting how many people define their self-worth by the number of (different) women they are sleeping with.

Now I have a fairly low self-esteem, and part of that is not being in a relationship, which I beat myself up about frequently. But heck, I wouldn't be happy if I was screwing around either. My idea of happiness is being in a relationship where both parties look up to/respect/feel bonded to the other. No, I'm not going to use the 'L' word; not ready to put flowers in my hair just yet :p
 
Ayahuasca said:
Don't think it requires doing either of those to form an opinion on the effect it may be having.
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So what's yours?

To be honest your OP is more of a "what effect do you think excessive use of video games & porn is having on some young men in society today"

There are plenty of young men (and women) who play a few games here and there and who watch porn occasionally, with no issues - these aren't inherently bad pastimes, just like having an occasional glass of wine or a few pints doesn't make you an alcoholic. However, as with most things, an excess is going to be bad for you.

So maybe your question should be, "why are young men consuming video games & porn to excess in society today?"

Probably the same reason as people have taken drugs, gambled and drunk to excess for centuries...

I imagine there were people asking the same question about TV when it became popular, and before that probably about books!

Young men should be learning to fight and raping and pillaging, none of this reading nonsense!
 
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FoxEye said:
I mean, for Pete's sake, there are threads advocating plastic surgery to "increase your sexual market value". I didn't stick around to check out too many threads; they were all borderline offensive to this "beta" male :p
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I've read some of that crap. It's mostly a bad copy of feminism. Same basic idea but done with less skill. Pretty sad. Each side really seems to think they're completely different when they're following the same ideology - advocacy for one sex.

If I was the Glorious Dictator of the World, I'd ship all the feminists/WRAs and masculists/MRAs off to the same isolated island so they could scream at each other or kill each other and leave civilisation for decent people to work on.
 
Ayahuasca said:
The 2 items in the title are the only release a lot of men in our younger generation have in their lives.

If porn wasn't around to suppress sexual tension and video games weren't around to provide that instant dopamine fix what do you think men would replace these with? Humans tend to adapt well so would we see men pushing themselves further and into other hobbies or would it go the other way and we'd see far higher levels of male suicide?
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The same as when we didn't have access to either of those things. We'd manage I imagine. (Yeah I can remember when porn was something men in dirty macs went asking for something "special" from the newagent which he'd pull out from under the counter and "playing games" was a pack of cards or a set of dominoes kept in the sideboard at home)
 
Blackjack Davy said:
The same as when we didn't have access to either of those things. We'd manage I imagine. (Yeah I can remember when porn was something men in dirty macs went asking for something "special" from the newagent which he'd pull out from under the counter and "playing games" was a pack of cards or a set of dominoes kept in the sideboard at home)
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And before printed magazines, there were sheep.
 
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