Soldato
Fascism is definitely right wing and Communism is definitely left. But politics is like a circle and if you go far enough the two ends more or less join up.
I disagree that Fascism is Right Wing. I've given multiple examples of Left Wing attitudes and policies in both of our modern examples of Fascism (Italian Fascism and Nazism). Whilst Fascism and Communism are doctrinally and historically violently opposed to one another, I don't feel that makes Fascism Right Wing any more than my arguing with a White person makes me Black.
That said this is good argument and I retract the part of what I wrote above about everybody always arguing by logical fallacy:
The bully boys SA enabled Hitler to gain power. The SA were ideologically wanting revolution, and wanted to target the money holders - the brownshirts (SA) wanted to more strongly to enact the socialist part of National Socialism. After Hitler gained power he dismantled the SA in the so-called 'night of the long knives'. This was because the Nazis could not afford to have the SA antagonizing the elites in the country because Hitler need the acquiescence of the these power blocks to stay in power and further his aims (and because the SA as a power block could have threatened Hitlers position).
You make a valid point about Rohm's "Second Revolution" and the support of the elites, but I have two countres to it. Firstly, Rohm wanted a very extreme wealth redistribution which would have been disastrous (imo - q.v. the Soviets). Hitler with his new found entry to the halls of power no longer wanted full revolution because he didn't need it. But the Nazis DID still carry on with a lot of wealth redistribution long after the purge of the SA leaders. I say that the fact Hitler didn't want ultra-extreme Left wing behaviour does not mean that the Nazis weren't still overwhelmingly Left Wing in behaviour and doctrine. Secondly, the elites did back the Nazis for quite some time as a natural counter to communists whom they greatly feared given what was happening in the East at the time. However, it was a bargain with the devil and they lost control quickly. Additionally, a lot of the "elites" Hitler wanted to woo weren't the arch wealthy so much as they were the German military. The generals. I agree with the above but think the impression of Hitler divesting himself of socialism and joining a bunch of oligarchs is not accurate. He divested himself of the street level thugs (many of whom later became soldiers) and struck deals with the elite until he had total power. But the Nazis remained socialist and their subsequent government and policies showed this.
That said, thank you for putting the case FAR better than people I usually debate with. I am happy to agree to disagree and I hope I manage to post this before you read my other post and react badly to my comments about the usual people I argue this with!