Man puts hand over my back gate, gets bitten by my dog....

[Begbie]

Is it considered normal for kids to open gates and enter someone else's garden in 2018? Times have changed then, because as kids we wouldn't have been allowed to do that.

Anyway, aren't guard dogs supposed to be potentially dangerous? I thought that was part of the function of a guard dog...

It just seems that with intruders having so many rights these days, that having a guard dog capable of guarding anything would be a liability for the owner.

As a kid, no I wasn't allowed to but invariably if we lost our ball into someone's garden some unlucky one was chosen to go get it. Don't tell me as a kid you didn't things you weren't meant to?

Exactly, what kid didn't jump into other peoples gardens. Collecting a ball, running through them to see how many you could get through, chap door run etc

 

[FoxEye]

As a kid, no I wasn't allowed to but invariably if we lost our ball into someone's garden some unlucky one was chosen to go get it. Don't tell me as a kid you didn't things you weren't meant to?

Exactly, what kid didn't jump into other peoples gardens. Collecting a ball, running through them to see how many you could get through, chap door run etc

I tell you honestly, I can't recall ever entering someone's back garden without permission, ever. Esp not fenced and gated ones.

We did lose our ball in other people's gardens like kids do, and we chose someone to go and knock on the door to get it back, which was scary enough for us as children

running through them to see how many you could get through

Wut? Ye gads, my parents would have murdered me for doing that...

And fortunately in my adult life I have never seen any kids doing that either. I guess one of the joys of living in moderately nice area.

 

[Thekwango]

In light of the above then lol if it was a potential shyster that got bit. Question remains though, if some unwitting kid reached their hand in for whatever reason and got bit I wonder would your police friends advice be the same?

 

[Thekwango]

We did lose our ball in other people's gardens like kids do, and we chose someone to go and knock on the door to get it back, which was scary enough for us as children

And if no one answered?

Wut ? Ye gads, my parents would have murdered me for doing that...

Mine too. Didn't stop us doing it!

 

[HoneyBadger]

3 years ago when we hired a Police dog trainer (Who’s a Police officer himself) to help us train our GSD’s, he stated that anyone can call the Police and report a dangerous dog in any environment, on any dog IF they feel suitably threatened and the Police must respond.

Now that doesn’t mean it would come to anything, but thought I’d mention it.

As a dog owner, a GSD owner, I hope your pups are ok and that this amounts to nothing.

 

[FoxEye]

And if no one answered?

Mine too. Didn't stop us doing it!

Then we told our parents and got it back later.

I guess we weren't as rebellious/mischievous as you lot

 

[Nodiggidy123]

In matters like this. How is it proven a particular dog did anything unless there are witnesses? Could you just deny it happened ?

 

[Nasher]

If they didn't actually draw blood and leave a visible injury there probably isn't a case TBH. It wasn't an "attack", just a nip.

Also dog thefts are a thing, say he was saying to steal them. Afterall he was technically trying to break in. There is a difference between having an open garden someone can just walk on to and a closed gate

 

[FoxEye]

Could you just deny it didn't happen?

You mean admit it happened?

 

[AndyCr15]

To cover yourself, I'd take photos of your signage on that gate with today's newspaper in shot so you can prove it was prominent at the time he was there

This made me chuckle a little. Isn't this strategy to show how new a picture is? Like if someone has a hostage, they were alive on this date. If there were no signs on Monday, but I keep Monday's paper, put the signs up Tuesday and then take a pic with Mondays photo, does that prove they were up on Monday?

 

[Nodiggidy123]

You mean admit it happened?

Yup. Lol will amend

 

[Hotwired]

This made me chuckle a little. Isn't this strategy to show how new a picture is? Like if someone has a hostage, they were alive on this date. If there were no signs on Monday, but I keep Monday's paper, put the signs up Tuesday and then take a pic with Mondays photo, does that prove they were up on Monday?

It's more reliable when used with people.

 

[AndyCr15]

Again, only if you're trying to show if something is still there or still alive. Not that it was there, or was alive.

 

[Scania]

Jesus some of the people in this thread.....

I feel sympathetic to the OP's concerns. But how in any way does the guy who reached his hand over 'deserve' to be bitten. He came round to inspect work done. He wasn't breaking and entering. He was coming, presumably, to make sure the work was satisfactory. Signs or no signs I don't think he deserves to lose his hand for that, as 1 of our high brow posters suggests.

Edit: as someone else above notes, if the dog is prone to bite purely at the sign of a strangers hand them I would suggest it is dangerous and needs securing. Heaven forbid some kid had kicked their football into the garden and came to retrieve it. Be ok if that kid go mauled?! Hypothetical of course.

I certainly don’t think he deserved it to a degree, on the other hand, he wasn’t particularly bright was he?

The dog(s) were already in the back garden barking prior to him attempting to open the gate - they saw him from the landing window arrive and come up the steps to my house (their usual vantage point) and bolted outside (I have a dog flap) I’m not afraid of dogs by any measure but I wouldn’t put my hand over a gate or fence with two barking German Shepherds (or any other large dog) behind it, beggars belief that he’d do so imo.

Think he was a shyster, on all previous occasions where a visit has been pre arranged the contractors have always kept well away from the gate until I’ve told them the dogs are shut away - I always warn contractors when they phone to arrange a visit of the presence of the dogs and that they have access to the back garden.

I’ve had a few balls kicked over, the kids on my estate whilst sometimes a bit loud and chavvy have the manners / sense to knock on for the ball back.

In light of the above then lol if it was a potential shyster that got bit. Question remains though, if some unwitting kid reached their hand in for whatever reason and got bit I wonder would your police friends advice be the same?

I’m 6’3” and can barely reach through the gap to get to the latch, I’d be surprised if a small kid could reach never mind stuck their hand through.

The dogs are my pets primarily but they also serve a purpose, despite numerous shed break ins in my immediate vicinity, my shed hasn’t (yet) been touched despite the kit in it.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

This is a completely proportional response to a strange man trying to violate another man's back gate.....vicar.

 

[Em3bbs]

Edit: reading back my original reply to someone sounded a bit mean.

I don't think it's acceptable to have dangerous dogs unsupervised these days, we had a staffie a few doors down about 15 years ago and it leapt over the fence after our cat and straight into our garden. The owners were the usual "oh they've never done that before". It was a few years before we had a newborn and thankfully we had moved by the time he was born - what would the dog have done then if we'd been in the garden and there was a baby playing on a blanket.

 

[Thekwango]

I certainly don’t think he deserved it to a degree, on the other hand, he wasn’t particularly bright was he?

The dog(s) were already in the back garden barking prior to him attempting to open the gate - they saw him from the landing window arrive and come up the steps to my house (their usual vantage point) and bolted outside (I have a dog flap) I’m not afraid of dogs by any measure but I wouldn’t put my hand over a gate or fence with two barking German Shepherds (or any other large dog) behind it, beggars belief that he’d do so imo.

Think he was a shyster, on all previous occasions where a visit has been pre arranged the contractors have always kept well away from the gate until I’ve told them the dogs are shut away - I always warn contractors when they phone to arrange a visit of the presence of the dogs and that they have access to the back garden.

I’ve had a few balls kicked over, the kids on my estate whilst sometimes a bit loud and chavvy have the manners / sense to knock on for the ball back.


I’m 6’3” and can barely reach through the gap to get to the latch, I’d be surprised if a small kid could reach never mind stuck their hand through.

The dogs are my pets primarily but they also serve a purpose, despite numerous shed break ins in my immediate vicinity, my shed hasn’t (yet) been touched despite the kit in it.

Just to be clear if he was up to no good I'm all for him getting bit and I'm not suggesting you're 'bad' person. I'm more miffed at the folk replying saying that he deserved it if he was a legitimate caller.

Re kids being too small reach, never doubt the ingenuity of kids when trying to retrieve a ball I imagine if a kiddy did get bit you may have a problem but I could be wrong.

 

[edscdk]

It was 25 years ago but my wife's then young daughter opened the front door to the postman.. German shepherd proceeded to take a lump out of postman and Blood everywhere!

Outcome was some police woman came to speak to her (a few days later) fussed the dog saw it was friendly and nothing more came of it

Dont know if much has changed since then..

 

[FoxEye]

Edit: reading back my original reply to someone sounded a bit mean.

I'm a big boy; I can take it. GD has improved the toughness of my skin no end

Besides, I'm curious now...

 

[EGuitarStar]

There must be some sort of protection for the dogs here, are you sure your vet has not said that they have suffered mental and emotional distress from this incident and the fear of being attacked in their own home?

Not a sarcastic comment.