How to download pre 1903?

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 09:40

Hi,

Getting lots of audio drop outs on my laptop and running the latest 1903 update. How do I get to download 1809? When I go to the Microsoft website it gives me no option to download pre may 1903 2019 update?

bledd · 27 Jun 2019 at 09:43

Surely a BIOS / driver fix is the way forward.

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 10:07

It's the Gigabyte Aero 15x which is a high powered laptop. Trying to do music production on it and i can't put anything less than 512 samples or it pops and clicks. That's with an expensive audio interface. Run latency Mon and getting acpi.sys up to 3000+ and also another one (can't remember what it is but it's kernel related). Read on Google that other people went back to 1809 and it made it a lot better.

marc2003 · 27 Jun 2019 at 10:51

https://tb.32767.ga/

Pop "1809" in to the search box.

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 11:41

Cheers

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 14:31

Wow. Gone from 3.0 latency on the latest win10 to 0.6 on 1809 lol

Gee · 27 Jun 2019 at 16:26

1903 still has DPC issues hence the audio cut-outs.

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 17:34

Yeah. Can't believe Microsoft released it without checking

demonix · 27 Jun 2019 at 17:41

RyzenJunkie said:
Yeah. Can't believe Microsoft released it without checking

Because they have no internal testers as they fired them all years ago (and those on the insider program that are the testers probably aren't doing anything like that).

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 19:51

Omg I can't believe the difference. Before I was on 512 samples on Studio One Pro and getting the odd random pop or stutter. Anything less than that and constant. I'm now on 32 samples and clean as anything.

RyzenJunkie · 27 Jun 2019 at 19:52

demonix said:
Because they have no internal testers as they fired them all years ago (and those on the insider program that are the testers probably aren't doing anything like that).

Very consumer focused

bledd · 28 Jun 2019 at 12:38

I'll wind my neck in..

It is an odd stance from MS where users are now testers.

AthlonXP1800 · 28 Jun 2019 at 12:44

RyzenJunkie said:
It's the Gigabyte Aero 15x which is a high powered laptop. Trying to do music production on it and i can't put anything less than 512 samples or it pops and clicks. That's with an expensive audio interface. Run latency Mon and getting acpi.sys up to 3000+ and also another one (can't remember what it is but it's kernel related). Read on Google that other people went back to 1809 and it made it a lot better.

I downloaded Audacity free DAW app and few audio files tested 32 samples and checked Latency Mon and saw my acpi.sys DPC still at 0, had no audio drop outs issue.

It seemed 1903 did not caused audio dropouts, if you are on Studio One 4.5.1 update, someone reported same issue with Windows 7 and downgraded Studio One back to 4.5 had fixed audio dropouts issue.

https://answers.presonus.com/41989/june-windows-update-causes-dropouts

AthlonXP1800 · 28 Jun 2019 at 12:45

Gee said:
1903 still has DPC issues hence the audio cut-outs.

Nope no DPC issue with 1903 here.

Gee · 28 Jun 2019 at 13:04

AthlonXP1800 said:
Nope no DPC issue with 1903 here.

Run LatencyMon for 30 mins in the background whilst browsing/doing normal stuff.

AthlonXP1800 · 28 Jun 2019 at 13:14

RyzenJunkie said:
Yeah. Can't believe Microsoft released it without checking

It amazed me people like you had issues with audio or wifi or graphics blamed on Microsoft and Windows 10 but Microsoft did not write BIOS, Realtek drivers and Studio One software.

I cant believed you not checked out PreSonus forum first, PreSonus is the company who wrote Studio One software, not Microsoft. If you still have audio issue then you will need to update Realtek driver as Realtek website did not have any new audio drivers for 2 years.

https://www.realtek.com/en/componen...-codecs-high-definition-audio-codecs-software

I found station-drivers has new Realtek driver submitted over a week ago on 19 June 2019 that supported 19H1 1903 May update.

https://www.station-drivers.com/ind...tory&Itemid=352&func=fileinfo&id=4058&lang=en

Rroff · 28 Jun 2019 at 13:20

Gee said:
Run LatencyMon for 30 mins in the background whilst browsing/doing normal stuff.

Funny how he always jumps in does some quick tests and declares unilaterally it isn't a Windows 10 problem (and tries to find some way to throw shade at Windows 7 to deflect from 10 being less than acceptable) - even when there are multiple reports of it from people who jumped on 1903 early and more reports of the same problem on general release.

For instance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/bu34xv/update_1903_high_dpc_latency_issues/

https://audiosex.pro/threads/windows-10-build-1903-showing-huge-latency-spikes.44384/

Windows 10 is junk if you need a consistent production environment (commercial or personal) slightly mitigated if you have access to LTSB.

AthlonXP1800 said:
Microsoft and Windows 10 but Microsoft did not write BIOS, Realtek drivers and Studio One software.

Sure they aren't responsible for many of these aspects but that doesn't excuse them of the fact that these issues are often reported well in advance of wider update roll-outs and ignored or overlooked multiple times and the OS can be significantly better designed to take this factor into account and allow people to better manage updates in an actual meaningful way rather than the increasingly special cased workarounds they are putting in.

AthlonXP1800 said:
I found station-drivers has new Realtek driver submitted over a week ago on 19 June 2019 that supported 19H1 1903 May update.

https://www.station-drivers.com/ind...tory&Itemid=352&func=fileinfo&id=4058&lang=en

I'm not sure I'd advocate a 3rd party modified driver of unknown origin as a counter to MS's poor strategy here.

RyzenJunkie · 28 Jun 2019 at 13:28

It has to be 1903. I'm on the same version of Studio One and the only single thing I have changed is the windows 10 version. Been on it today for 2hrs solid at 32 samples and not 1 single dropout, click, pop etc

RyzenJunkie · 28 Jun 2019 at 13:33

AthlonXP1800 said:
It amazed me people like you had issues with audio or wifi or graphics blamed on Microsoft and Windows 10 but Microsoft did not write BIOS, Realtek drivers and Studio One software.

I cant believed you not checked out PreSonus forum first, PreSonus is the company who wrote Studio One software, not Microsoft. If you still have audio issue then you will need to update Realtek driver as Realtek website did not have any new audio drivers for 2 years.

https://www.realtek.com/en/componen...-codecs-high-definition-audio-codecs-software

I found station-drivers has new Realtek driver submitted over a week ago on 19 June 2019 that supported 19H1 1903 May update.

https://www.station-drivers.com/ind...tory&Itemid=352&func=fileinfo&id=4058&lang=en

People like me? Wow you know so much about me :rolleyes:

Also I did check presonus but I'm not using realtek drivers as I am using an audio interface.

It's running flawlessly on mine now so perhaps the audio issues on the presonus forum are people using crap audio interfaces or none at all.

AthlonXP1800 · 28 Jun 2019 at 15:31

Gee said:
Run LatencyMon for 30 mins in the background whilst browsing/doing normal stuff.

30 mins? That is nothing! After 30 mins, no DPC issues.

I installed 1903 on production PCs since 24 April 2019 and used my desktop for about 10 hours everyday browsing internet, doing Office online, playing games and watching Netflix without issues after all windows updates installed. That added up 650 hours in total.