5700xt on a 4670k

Insolent mint · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:40

How stupid is this pairing on a scale 1-10? 1080p gaming only. The 4670k is OCd to 4.6 but I feel the DDR3 ram (and slow one at that) throttles the CPU hard in gaming. I'd love to upgrade right now, but then i'd miss the DDR5 train and big navi in 2020.

melmac · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:46

What GPU do you have now?

Insolent mint · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:46

melmac said:
What GPU do you have now?

1060 3gb.

Rofflay · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:48

Yea i noticed right away when my bios reset once orgrimmar felt pretty laggy i knew something was up. So into the bios and my ram went from 2400 to 1600 default. I lost a huge amount of fps i went from stutter to framecap smoothness with my ram.

When is the DDR5 Ryzen train then?

Insolent mint · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:53

Rofflay said:
Yea i noticed right away when my bios reset once orgrimmar felt pretty laggy i knew something was up. So into the bios and my ram went from 2400 to 1600 default. I lost a huge amount of fps i went from stutter to framecap smoothness with my ram.

When is the DDR5 Ryzen train then?

Yes indeed. Apparently i've got some lpx corsair 1600mhz ram (presumably hynix); doesn't OC one bit, so that's that. I've been contemplating about getting decent DDR3 ram but at the same time been reluctant in spending more on this antiquated build.

melmac · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:55

Insolent mint said:
1060 3gb.

Not sure it's worth it for you unless you are unhappy with the performance. The 5700 would definitely be bottlenecked by a 4670 at 1080p.

Save your money and do a complete system upgrade next year with big Navi and a higher resolution monitor.

Or else, buy the 5700 and a 1440p monitor now and upgrade the rest of your system next year.

Rofflay · 19 Jul 2019 at 21:57

Yea i know i lucked out on the Gskill stuff 2400mhz 10-12-12-31-1T but does 10-12-12-25-1T. It refuses to overclock as well it only likes the last two numbers adjusted and never above 2400mhz on any timings or voltagew argh.

It does the above on default 1.65 i think or 1.6v but the prices are probably a way up for reference i think the Gskill was £120 3yrs ago.

Threepwood · 19 Jul 2019 at 22:05

According to this ( https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/intel-core-i5-4670k-3-40ghz/ultra ) there is around 8% bottleneck with the games tested, and that's with the cpu at stock.

Looks like they would suit one another almost perfectly to me!

Insolent mint · 19 Jul 2019 at 22:07

melmac said:
Not sure it's worth it for you unless you are unhappy with the performance. The 5700 would definitely be bottlenecked by a 4670 at 1080p.

Save your money and do a complete system upgrade next year with big Navi and a higher resolution monitor.

Or else, buy the 5700 and a 1440p monitor now and upgrade the rest of your system next year.

Cheers for your input! I'm quite happy with 1080p gaming (playing competitive titles on 240hz monitor); seems like the most rational solution is either getting a 3600 + 5700xt for time being or simply postpone a build until 2020 (which doesn't cure the malaising itch

).

Insolent mint · 19 Jul 2019 at 22:08

Threepwood said:
According to this ( https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/intel-core-i5-4670k-3-40ghz/ultra ) there is around 8% bottleneck with the games tested, and that's with the cpu at stock.

Looks like they would suit one another almost perfectly to me!

Appreciate that a lot, very interesting!

Rofflay · 19 Jul 2019 at 23:01

Insolent mint said:
Appreciate that a lot, very interesting!

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gigabyte-aorus-kd25f.18859328/

Worth a read if interested 5700xt will not do DSR, I put a guide there for Nvidia users of 240hz monitors. I too enjoy 1080p 240hz but only if the game rarely supports 8x MSAA. Otherwise i brute force 4k 240hz which is an option on a 2070s.

Threepwood · 19 Jul 2019 at 23:10

Rofflay said:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gigabyte-aorus-kd25f.18859328/

Worth a read if interested 5700xt will not do DSR

But it will do VSR, being an amd card and not an nvidia one, ofc.

Rofflay · 19 Jul 2019 at 23:14

Threepwood said:
But it will do VSR, being an amd card and not an nvidia one ofc.

VSR will not do the same quality look the VSR spec sheet it does and did never state it did a 1:1 conversion of 4k to 1080p without a framerate cap. AMD VSR stated 60hz as a limit, Nvidia allow you to adjust the smoothing to 0% so you get a perfect 1:1 image.

If VSR secretly changed this, prove it can do 4k 240fps because the spec sheet says otherwise for VSR if AMD could do this great but this is the sole reason i buy Nvidia for DSR.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/vsr
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-010

Threepwood · 19 Jul 2019 at 23:26

Rofflay said:
If VSR secretly changed this, prove it can do 4k 240fps because the spec sheet says otherwise for VSR if AMD could do this great but this is the sole reason i buy Nvidia for DSR.

Idk, not tried it!

Google hits me with this ( https://hardforum.com/threads/whos-planning-to-buy-5700-gpu.1982369/page-7#post-1044261551 ) ( post #241)

1080p monitor 240Hz VSR to 4k ultra, ran at 75fps (which is more than 60?)

Rofflay · 19 Jul 2019 at 23:35

Threepwood said:
Idk, not tried it!

Google hits me with this ( https://hardforum.com/threads/whos-planning-to-buy-5700-gpu.1982369/page-7#post-1044261551 ) ( post #241)

1080p monitor 240Hz VSR to 4k ultra, ran at 75fps (which is more than 60?)

120 is quoted as a limit also someone said they did out of spec 5k vsr so maybe? But AMD kept this silent from the start Nvidia had it working flawlessly on Maxwell really. Why AMD never made an effort to relay the information i do not know thier website speaks highly of VSR and RIS. It would be better than Nvidia because to get sharpening on Nvidia you need Freestyle for the sharpening filter preset which means GFE.

AMD VSR would have been the less bloated experience, but the lack of 5700xt horsepower would of been an annoyance. You really need power for new games but i happily run World of tanks in 4k 120fps. And the image is so much better than supersampling believe it or not Supersampling is inferior and introduces blur where as DSR sharpens the textures to 4k.

caliberlife · 20 Jul 2019 at 06:14

Insolent mint said:
How stupid is this pairing on a scale 1-10? 1080p gaming only. The 4670k is OCd to 4.6 but I feel the DDR3 ram (and slow one at that) throttles the CPU hard in gaming. I'd love to upgrade right now, but then i'd miss the DDR5 train and big navi in 2020.

I’m getting a 5700xt and I have a 4670k @ 4ghz. Currently got a GTX 970

I’m doing it for 1080p for the FPS for future games and for 4K tv on some titles and at 1440p on the 4K tv too.
When new gen games come out if my cpu has a serious bottleneck due to the game it self then I’ll update the CPU.

gavinh87 · 20 Jul 2019 at 12:42

caliberlife said:
I’m getting a 5700xt and I have a 4670k @ 4ghz. Currently got a GTX 970

I’m doing it for 1080p for the FPS for future games and for 4K tv on some titles and at 1440p on the 4K tv too.
When new gen games come out if my cpu has a serious bottleneck due to the game it self then I’ll update the CPU.

You will have a severe bottleneck there.
It's not even worth upgrading the GPU with that cpu

caliberlife · 20 Jul 2019 at 12:44

gavinh87 said:
You will have a severe bottleneck there.
It's not even worth upgrading the GPU with that cpu

8% loss at stock with 4670k the improvement from a 970 is huge

gavinh87 · 20 Jul 2019 at 12:46

caliberlife said:
8% loss at stock with 4670k the improvement from a 970 is huge

Ignore that website you used.

caliberlife · 20 Jul 2019 at 13:07

There really much a difference gaming over 1080p from an overclocked 4670k to say a stock 3600 on a 5700xt? And by how much give or take ?