Old r7 1700 vs r7 3700x

[Sharrkan]

So at this moment i'm looking to upgrade my PC a bit however i'm not very educated on this topic so i'm just gonna tell you guys what i was going to do.

At this moment i have.
gtx 1080
Ryzen 7 1700
Asus rog strix 350-f motherboard.
16gigs of team group dark ram 3200mhz
Evga supernova g2 650W power supply

And i was looking to upgrade and spend max 300£ so i thought about getting Ryzen 7 3700x. Also would i need to invest in cooling or stock one will do. I mostly game in 1080/1440p resolution. Sorry if i should post that in different place let me know and i will delete this. Also if you need links to my parts let me know, I'll do it once i get home

 

[zx128k]

The stock air cooler is decent. You need bios version 4801 for the 3700x. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_CPU/ https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/specifications/
I would worry about the VRM's if you overclock or run high loads for long periods, see the thermal image. Gaming at stock should be fine or the CPU should not be on the supported list. I could not find much about the vrms but it looks like its 4 phase for vcore with the ASP1106GGQW as the controller (4+2). 4phase, one 4C09B high https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/823674/ONSemiconductor/NTMFS4C09N/1 and 2 lowside 4C06B https://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/87012/TOREX/4C06B.html

http://www.datasheetgo.com/4c09b-datasheet-mosfet/




https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

Thermal Image - Asus Strix B350-F - overvolted at 1.44V (at 1.35-38V i would expect 80-90°C on the VRM, 70-80°C on the heatsink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-ryzen-7-overclocking-over-1-32-1-35v.236717/

Looks like you may need good air flow over the vrm area. Sp1 is 121.7c which is hot @ 1.44volts. 1.325-1.38 volts is more or less the overclock range for a ryzen 3000 cpu.
If you get an AIO, you still need air flow over that VRM.

 

[Sharrkan]

So to keep it simple. It would work? And i should figure out good airflow for that.

 

[zx128k]

So to keep it simple. It would work? And i should figure out good airflow for that.

100% I would keep good air flow over the vrms. At stock and with the air cooler you will get air flow over the vrms from its fan. Keep an eye on vrm temps if you can, some low end boards have no temp sensors for the vrms. Crazy temps will kill the board after awhile. Just be careful if you try overclocking. With an AIO I would 100% have an extra fan pushing air over the vrms just in case. Most cases have a case fan in the vrm area.

 

[jigger]

The 3700X will pull about the same power as the 1700. You will be fine.

 

[4K8KW10]

So at this moment i'm looking to upgrade my PC a bit however i'm not very educated on this topic so i'm just gonna tell you guys what i was going to do.

At this moment i have.
gtx 1080
Ryzen 7 1700
Asus rog strix 350-f motherboard.
16gigs of team group dark ram 3200mhz
Evga supernova g2 650W power supply

And i was looking to upgrade and spend max 300£ so i thought about getting Ryzen 7 3700x. Also would i need to invest in cooling or stock one will do. I mostly game in 1080/1440p resolution. Sorry if i should post that in different place let me know and i will delete this. Also if you need links to my parts let me know, I'll do it once i get home

Buy a new graphics card and overclock the Ryzen 7 1700.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99
• 1 x Cooler Master Hyper H411R CPU Cooler with White LED - 120mm= £23.99

Total: £384.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)




RX 5700 XT is 53.4% faster in the new RDR2 game!

 

[LtMatt]

Wow what happened to the 1080?

 

[Brazo]

Wow what happened to the 1080?

I think it’s shocking that so many cards vega 64 included are well below 60fps at a measly 1080p!

Yes the 1080 fares worse but even a 1080ti can’t crack 1080p here!!

Not much point highlighting the abysmal 1080 performance when it’s rival is putting in a bloody awful performance (albeit yes better!)

It’s like getting shot 80 times as opposed to 100. It’s not like you’d want either option!

 

[MaXxBoulton]

Not a fair chart that one, rdr2 is so badly optimised right now.

 

[~>Dg<~]

probably done before drivers for optimization are out.

 

[zx128k]

Seems about right.

Async compute on vs off. AMD wins. 5700XT ftw. as fast as a 2080. Costs half as much. Async computer on fixes frame time issue. Second video states enabling async compute on Nvidia cards does little to nothing.

5700xt starts to lose as the resolution increases.