Actually the WD Green M.2 2280 240GB has the OS on it and there is a Samsung EVO 250GB SSD with the games on. (Just edited my previous post to reflect this)
[HELP] I Bought my Brother a Gaming PC but it's not performing right?
- Thread starter RipGroove
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Actually the WD Green M.2 2280 240GB has the OS on it and there is a Samsung EVO 250GB SSD with the games on. (Just edited my previous post to reflect this)
Which monitor does your brother have?
BTW your 1080 Ti is likely to be running a lot faster thanks to the AIO. What does GPU-Z say about your respective GPUs?
What is the CPU usage?
You will likely not be able to overclock on this motherboard.
He has the lower Res 2560x1440
Agreed about the GPU speed but wouldn't think it would make that much difference. I will of course compare the clock speeds.
Don't recall the CPU usage sadly so I'll have to have another look.
Already aware of the motherboard limitations but figured the stock clocks would be ok at 2560x1440 as my stock clocks work great at 3440x1440
Yes, but exactly which monitor does he have? Which one do you have? Are you both using Displayport cables or HDMI? HDMI may limit him to 60 fps.
Oh sorry yes it's an Acer KG271U connected by display port. Wonder if the cable has anything to do with it. I would have thought if that were the case we would see it constantly locked at the 75Hz refresh rate of his monitor or 60Hz if restricted by the cable. I will switch it with my cable to test it though.
My monitor is an Acer Predator x34a connected via display port.
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Soldato
It pains me that this discussion has a hole in where CPU usage is concerned.
B250 motherboard. Probably haven't turned on all-clock turbo either.
Clock speeds likely to suffer and power limits might be affected too.
B250 motherboard. Probably haven't turned on all-clock turbo either.
Clock speeds likely to suffer and power limits might be affected too.
A long shot, but perhaps the RAM is running in single channel?
Easy to see in CpuZ
Gpu utilisation being low means there is a CPU bottleneck (or frame limiter, which is unlikely as you are seeing 70fps sometimes). And if CPU is not throttling, the likely cause could be not enough memory bandwidth. So it could be a single stick of RAM, or two sticks in wrong slots.
While in CpuZ, run cpu single and multicore benchmarks. Should be 500+ and 2500+ ish
Easy to see in CpuZ
Gpu utilisation being low means there is a CPU bottleneck (or frame limiter, which is unlikely as you are seeing 70fps sometimes). And if CPU is not throttling, the likely cause could be not enough memory bandwidth. So it could be a single stick of RAM, or two sticks in wrong slots.
While in CpuZ, run cpu single and multicore benchmarks. Should be 500+ and 2500+ ish
I know sorry it's difficult when the PC isn't actually with me. I know he did a Timespy run yesterday and his cloCPU coreck was 4200Mhz and his turbo clock was 4490Mhz if that helps is the absence of some more detailed data.
Also his GPU core was 1823Mhz and mem clock was 1377Mhz.
I don't know exactly what conditions he done this benchmark on though so want to repeat it with the same monitoring as I did on my own.
I will check the BIOS for CPU settings.
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Thank you yes this is on my list of things to check on Saturday.
Soldato
It'll be satisfying when you get it figured out 
That, or it'll be one of life's mysteries forever.
That, or it'll be one of life's mysteries forever.Oh I really hope not because I bought it for him because he's having a pretty bad time at the minute and the whole point was to give him something to focus on and be fun with no stress.It'll be satisfying when you get it figured out
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RipGroove, your a good man helping your brother out with a nice gaming build for him. I'm inclined to believe the cpu is the issue as the 60% gpu usage is usually a cpu bottlenecking issue. If thermals while gaming are fine for the cpu it would be best for you to monitor the cpu clocks while gaming by using hwinfo and logging the cpu clocks to see if that is the issue or not.
Haha thank you well I do what I can when I can to help family and friends! And yes you are right, I need to get HWMonitor (or similar) running in the background and do some benchmarks as well as gaming. I have a list of things to try and test for when I can get round his place and see the PC again so I'll report back here on Saturday with what data I have and see if it helps solve it.
I think you need to be diagnosing locally, as there is the potential for confusion and mistranslation otherwise.
50-60 fps and utilization % seems very coincidental indicating they possibly the same measurement. 60fps is vsync level for 60hz as well as if 60fps cap set somewhere.
60% gpu utilisation alongside a framerate thats not at vsync level, and a not maxed out cpu utilisation would be the conditions I was thinking of at the start of the thread.
I agree totally, I'll see what I can see Saturday when I'm actually in front of the machine myself.
FWIW, I had a brand new RTX 2080s and when playing BFV I would get around 50-55 fps and my utilisation was only around 70-80 percent.
Sent it back for a refund and now I have a 2070s and getting around the 100fps mark at (3840x1080) High details, conquest 64 man server.
Have no idea what caused that but it was definatly not performing like it should have for a 2080s!
Sent it back for a refund and now I have a 2070s and getting around the 100fps mark at (3840x1080) High details, conquest 64 man server.
Have no idea what caused that but it was definatly not performing like it should have for a 2080s!
That
That is weird!
Soldato
Wow funny, i just returned a Gigabyte 2080S for low fps and benchmarks. The replacement worked 100% fine and its the same model and brand. Just plonked it straight into the pc and booted up, no driver change nothing.
I've just got back from my Bro's place, I didn't get too long with the PC before he had to go out but after a DDU clean and GPU driver install BFV is now returning 110-130 ish FPS which is way better than the 50-60fps he was getting before. His GPU usage in game is also now 98-99%, unfortunately I couldn't get Afterburner to display the CPU usage in game and didn't have time to figure out why but if his GPU usage is now happy then I can assume his CPU usage is OK, CPU temp was 50°C which is pretty good IMO.
Not quite sure why his 3200Mhz RAM is only showing up as 1064Mhz in CPU-Z, surely that should read 1600MHz? XMP is enabled in BIOS.
So overall I think I'm happy with it at the moment, obviously I'll get him to keep an eye on it. As for what exactly was causing it I'm not sure as I didn't have the time to thoroughly investigate step by step today but if the problem comes back i'll go get the PC and bring it to my house and do some more thorough testing over the space of a few days.
Below are a load of screenshots for various things, anything look out of the ordinary to you lot?
Cinebench R20 Score:
Cinebench R20 Monitoring:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp9W]
Timespy Score:
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Timespy Details:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV5W]
Timepsy Details:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV3S]
Timespy Monitoring:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp1j]
CPU-Z Memory:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp5C]
CPU-Z Bench:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp5Y]
GPU Driver:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbcH]
Windows Power Plan:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV93]
Windows Power Plan Advanced (CPU):
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp6K]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbcC]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbbF]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp7B]
BIOS:
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BIOS:
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BIOS:
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Not quite sure why his 3200Mhz RAM is only showing up as 1064Mhz in CPU-Z, surely that should read 1600MHz? XMP is enabled in BIOS.
So overall I think I'm happy with it at the moment, obviously I'll get him to keep an eye on it. As for what exactly was causing it I'm not sure as I didn't have the time to thoroughly investigate step by step today but if the problem comes back i'll go get the PC and bring it to my house and do some more thorough testing over the space of a few days.
Below are a load of screenshots for various things, anything look out of the ordinary to you lot?
Cinebench R20 Score:
Cinebench R20 Monitoring:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp9W]
Timespy Score:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdb9B]
Timespy Details:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV5W]
Timepsy Details:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV3S]
Timespy Monitoring:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp1j]
CPU-Z Memory:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp5C]
CPU-Z Bench:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp5Y]
GPU Driver:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbcH]
Windows Power Plan:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfV93]
Windows Power Plan Advanced (CPU):
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp6K]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbcC]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdbbF]
NVCP:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhp7B]
BIOS:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGdfSQ]
BIOS:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhtRr]
BIOS:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGfZH3]
BIOS:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iGhtee]
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