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Finding the Best Desktop CPU For Gaming 9900K v 3950X in 50 games

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On what planet is an Intel gaming system cheaper than AMD right now?

You wouldn't buy a 3950X just for gaming, you'd buy a 3600, 3700X, or maybe a 3900X, the 3600 and 3700X are much cheaper than the 9700K let alone the 9900K. The direct competitor to the 9900K would be a like for like CPU, so a 3700X or 3800X.
 

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RavenXXX2 said:
Intel take the win at 1080p and with it being a lot cheaper v the 3950X

https://www.legitreviews.com/best-cpu-for-gaming-top-50-steam-games-benchmarked_218261
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50 games at 1080p i expected more than a 5% lead to the 9900k. What baffles me is the way this was set up for that win. All you have to do is read it. Even with a 3700x the numbers would look pretty much the same but intel wouldnt offer the 'cheaper platform' that they go over. It was also intel sponsored so some salt required?
 

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The comment section of that article and the attempts to defend the article by the site staff is hilarious.

One of the staff came out with this gem:

Sponsored content is what keeps most tech sites and channels open these days. Ad revenue is down and the pandemic certainly didn't help things. People can argue over what CPU should have been tested, but that was was ultimately up to the company commissioning the piece. Once those initial parameters are set they then hand the ball over to us and see what happens. If a company came to you and said test our product versus our competitors in your independent setting. How would that lose your credibility? You should be glad one of the last independent sites around got the work and not some mega publisher. Come jump on our Discord channel and chat and play with the writers here. We are straight up, not biased and actual gamers/enthusiasts.
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Isn't that pretty much the definition of bias?

We're a credible tech site and we write what companies tell us to write.

Legit reviews indeed.
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
Intel take the win at 1080p and with it being a lot cheaper v the 3950X

https://www.legitreviews.com/best-cpu-for-gaming-top-50-steam-games-benchmarked_218261
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LOLOL. Intel sponsored reviews (written on the article and dozen of times by LR on the comments admitting it), testing a 9900K against a 3950X on 1080p gaming with 2080Ti?

The test is rigged from the moment someone looks the specs.

Look at ram speeds, they do not even run them at 3600Mhz, why use 3733 ram then? The 9900K is all core overclocked to 5Ghz but they only show that on the Guru3d image, not explicitly state that on the benchmark reviews.
 
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Panos said:
Look at ram speeds, they do not even run them at 3600Mhz, why use 3733 ram then? The 9900K is all core overclocked to 5Ghz but they only show that on the Guru3d image, not explicitly state that on the benchmark reviews.
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Both rigs are running the ram at the same speed, 3600. Amd mobo's just have an odd way of displaying that in HWiNFO64. What dosn't make sense though is Cas being at 17 on the Intel setup and Cas being 18 on the AMD setup. I'm guessing it's just a quirk of the way each mobo is reading the XMP data.

The whole exercise is a complete and utter LOL though anyway, the 2 cpu's are like chalk and cheese to start with. A completely worthless waste of time and space on the server.
 

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Both rigs are running the ram at the same speed, 3600. Amd mobo's just have an odd way of displaying that in HWiNFO64. What dosn't make sense though is Cas being at 17 on the Intel setup and Cas being 18 on the AMD setup. I'm guessing it's just a quirk of the way each mobo is reading the XMP data.

The whole exercise is a complete and utter LOL though anyway, the 2 cpu's are like chalk and cheese to start with. A completely worthless waste of time and space on the server.
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But why Intel ordered them to use 3733C18 ram instead of 3600C16 ram. Makes no sense. Why use the TUF with it's weird clock and not a board with 100mhz bus default.
 

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Panos said:
But why Intel ordered them to use 3733C18 ram instead of 3600C16 ram. Makes no sense. Why use the TUF with it's weird clock and not a board with 100mhz bus default.
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Intel didn't order them to use anything other than the 2 cpu's, Legit Reviews (sic) decided on the rest of the hardware. Just realized, Cas 18 on the AMD setup is because AMD will not set an odd number for Cas.
 

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Gray2233 said:
We're a credible tech site and we write what companies tell us to write.

Legit reviews indeed.
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LuserBenchmark got companion...
Hope thay have more room left after summer with Intel knowing they're screwed against Zen3.


Panos said:
True, I do not know of anyone spending 2K on CPU & GPU alone to game at 1080p.
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But isn't that just The Way It's Meant To Be Played with raytracing?
 

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Panos said:
LR said that all the parameters for the test were ordered by Intel.
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I'm not defending them, the whole thing was rigged by Intel insisting the 3950x was used, but they chose all the hardware other than the cpu's:

"Intel had zero influence on the other components used for test systems that we configured and weren’t even aware of the components until testing was completed."
 
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