Processor or faster?

[Ryzen4296]

What do you think would give me the most gain going from a r3 2200g to an r4 2400g?
P.s yes I am using the pay as I have no gpu at this present time
Or going from 12gb ddr4 2333mhz to 16gb 3200mhz I know ryzen need fast ram what do you guys think I swap first then?

 

[Joxeon]

I would swap the ram first then save up for the 4400G which should be coming out soon although if gaming is your main objective then a dedicated Gpu would provide the most benefit.

 

[Sparx]

Most gain in doing what exactly? Neither sound like good upgrades imo.

I'd go for the new 4000 Ryzen APUs when released later this year, presuming your mobo can support them.

 

[Ryzen4296]

Gaming I don't care about resolution just a payable 45 to 60 fps in apex legends plays every other game I want like destiny 2 and thanks spare pretty much answered it f0r me I'll go ram and wait to see if theirs a r5 4000 series apu and yes my pc is to small to fit a graphics card inside of comfortable right now as its a xbox original crystal hence why I'm going the pay direction

 

[mickyflinn]

Having 12gb ram seems odd you are los8ng a lot of performance because your not in dual channel mode get another 8gb stick of the same speed and ditch the 4gb.

Or you could go 2x 4gb if you want.

 

[dfour]

Considering you are using the system ram for the igpu faster ram should make the biggest difference as with a newer cpu your still bottleneck the igpu with slow ram.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-blac-my-0a3-tg.html

Pooor cas timing (if you cant run @3600mhz the timing will tighten up @3200 mhz) but for the money they cant be beatem IMHO.

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/raven-ridge-memory-scaling-benchmarks,5489.html

 

[mickyflinn]

if you’re gaming on integrated graphics–such as on a Ryzen APU–dual-channel memory can increase your average framerate in most games by 10-30 percent, or even more. It’s inexpensive, easy to set up, and delivers a notable boost to performance. Go dual channel.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...l-vs-single-channel-ram-gaming-amd-ryzen/amp/

 

[Tetras]

2133 to 3200/3600 would give you a huge boost with an APU (relatively speaking), then can upgrade CPU to a 4650 or whatever when it's time.

 

[Ryzen4296]

Bought
Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2400C14 Vengeance LPX 2x8gb ddr4 3200mhz thanks for your help everyone

 

[Quartz]

Remember to enable DOCP in the BIOS otherwise it will only run at stock speeds.

 

[merlin6r]

Having 12gb ram seems odd you are los8ng a lot of performance because your not in dual channel mode get another 8gb stick of the same speed and ditch the 4gb.

Or you could go 2x 4gb if you want.

^^This

Assuming you're using 3 x 4gb sticks, it's been demonstrated that removing 1 stick and using 8gb in dual channel is better than using 12gb in single channel....

 

[dfour]

Bought
Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2400C14 Vengeance LPX 2x8gb ddr4 3200mhz thanks for your help everyone

Now up the c14 to c16 and get it running at 3600mhz!! (if it can with the board and chip combinations)

 

[merlin6r]

Now up the c14 to c16 and get it running at 3600mhz!! (if it can with the board and chip combinations)

Wouldn't that be slower?

3200 @ CL14 is 8.75 nanoseconds.

3600 @ CL16 is 8.88 nanoseconds.

Hows that for splitting hairs!!

 

[dfour]

Wouldn't that be slower?

3200 @ CL14 is 8.75 nanoseconds.

3600 @ CL16 is 8.88 nanoseconds.

Hows that for splitting hairs!!

LOL. Dont forget that the chipset runs at the same speed as the ram (plus more memory bandwidth for the igpu) so it will all run faster and I really doubt you wil notice the .13 nanoseconds lost

 

[dfour]

Double post

 

[merlin6r]

LOL. Dont forget that the chipset runs at the same speed as the ram (plus more memory bandwidth for the igpu) so it will all run faster and I really doubt you wil notice the .13 nanoseconds lost

Good answer.

And glad its not just me having the problem with double posting today....

 

[Joxeon]

Bought
Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2400C14 Vengeance LPX 2x8gb ddr4 3200mhz thanks for your help everyone

Don't want to put a dampener on things but the ram you have listed there is only 2400mhz.

Personally I would cancel the order / return it and pick up something like this.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £53.99

Total: £62.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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[dfour]

Or 3600 mhz ram

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan TUF Gaming Alliance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C19 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Blac= £59.99

Total: £68.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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