EV general discussion

Saw my first Genesis this morning a GV60 in a darkish silver with black interior. I thought it was a very nice looking car and used prices aren't bad so that's a maybe in a couple of years time if I get bored of the Leaf (still loving it at the moment).

Really like the GV70, especially the top spec model with very lovely/posh interior. Would be on a short list if ever moved to an SUV but that is highly unlikely.
 
I see the Tories are now saying they will also scrap the petrol/diesel ban, if they win. Certainly some softening going on.

I think I’m in the camp of let capitalism decided. If the product is good then people will vote with their wallets.
 
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I think I’m in the camp of let capitalism decided. If the product is good then people will vote with their wallets.
The problem about that is we would still be burning coal and installing huge oil fired boilers at 50% efficiency. We need to provide both a push and a pull when introducing policies designed to make our lives better. The smoking ban comes to mind as a goods example of a policy that has proven massively popular but was ridiculed when first mentioned.
 
I see the Tories are now saying they will also scrap the petrol/diesel ban, if they win. Certainly some softening going on.

I think I’m in the camp of let capitalism decided. If the product is good then people will vote with their wallets.

They actually have to regain power to do that, by which point you are in 2028/29 and then the targets are hitting 66% and beyond. It's amazing what lobbying can do if you push enough £/$/€ they way of the political parties, so capitalism isn't deciding corruption is.
 
Hello gents, I'm in the market for replacing my 2014 X5. I'm a little out the loop but I need a car that can do trips between London and Birmingham to visit the rents once a month. My daily work commutes are tiny and it would be great to get cost savings here. Therefore, I'm considering a plug in hybrid. The various (paid) reviews vary massively. Any recommendations for a family SUV with decent tech?
 
Hello gents, I'm in the market for replacing my 2014 X5. I'm a little out the loop but I need a car that can do trips between London and Birmingham to visit the rents once a month. My daily work commutes are tiny and it would be great to get cost savings here. Therefore, I'm considering a plug in hybrid. The various (paid) reviews vary massively. Any recommendations for a family SUV with decent tech?

By the sounds of it a full electric would be better - the one long journey a month could almost be done on an average full charge of 200 - 250 miles but a small public charge wouldn’t cost much if needed on the way back.

You’d spend 99% of the driving time hauling around the ICE and fuel for no reason at all, along with all the servicing costs it entails.

Just a thought!
 
I think the ban is too soon, purely because EV so far has been the domain of the better off. If you have the ability to charge and can afford it, EV is a no brainer. Only once there is reasonably priced public charging for the masses should there be a ban imo.
 
Ionic 5 has been great for us plenty of tech and big inside. Just remember that the range drops off pretty dramatically when it’s below or near freezing and charges slower on D/C too unless you get something with battery pre-heat which tbh really does not do much.

For your commute you will save a fortune if you have a home charger and get on a cheap E/V tariff. Using Tesla chargers when on a trip saves a fair bit too.
 
Thanks.

My issue is that I tend to do day journeys. That would mean a public charge somewhere. I'm not sure what the experience is at Oxford Services, e.g., wait times, charge times, or cost.

I guess it's about avoiding that headache and having the peace of mind of jumping into a car and going versus going full EV.
 
My issue is that I tend to do day journeys. That would mean a public charge somewhere. I'm not sure what the experience is at Oxford Services, e.g., wait times, charge times, or cost.

I guess it's about avoiding that headache and having the peace of mind of jumping into a car and going versus going full EV.

It's understandable when you feel like this with little or no experience of using an EV daily, so you can make it sound way worse to yourself than it is in reality.

If you get 250 mile real world EV, then do a 350 mile (there and back) day trip and leave on a full charge, usable range down to 10%, so you've covered 225 miles meaning you need at least 125 miles or a 55-60% charge. In a modern EV like @MOOGLEYS Ioniq 5 - it can charge 10-80% is ~ 17 mins. If you take an average achievable speed of 60mph (we all wish) then your 350 miles is nearly 6 hours, so you are adding ~5% extra journey time, and that is assuming you never normally stop to use a toilet or get a coffee on either leg of the day trip..
Even if you spent 30 mins charging it's a small fraction of 6 hours driving, and is hardly worth worrying about unless you are doing the same thing every single week, week in week out.
 
@Journey that's really helpful. You're correct - anxiety over the unknown.

Are cables and plugs standard? For example- I plan a trip and stop off at Oxford services. Assume the tesla chargers are compatible and I can book a slot ahead of time using their website ?
 
@Journey that's really helpful. You're correct - anxiety over the unknown.

Are cables and plugs standard? For example- I plan a trip and stop off at Oxford services. Assume the tesla chargers are compatible and I can book a slot ahead of time using their website ?

DC charging on nearly all cars (old Leafs not included) are CCS2, and rapid charging hubs consist of mainly CCS2 chargers, ranging from 50kW all the way to 400kW. You can use open to all Tesla sits which are listed on their app or website, but you cannot book a slot in advance, but its never normally needed as the tun over is so fast at their sites due to how many stalls they typically have.
 
Thanks.

My issue is that I tend to do day journeys. That would mean a public charge somewhere. I'm not sure what the experience is at Oxford Services, e.g., wait times, charge times, or cost.

I guess it's about avoiding that headache and having the peace of mind of jumping into a car and going versus going full EV.

I’ve had my ID7 since October 2024, I’ve clocked just over 31k miles, and honestly the network is just brilliant. In that time I’ve had to wait twice for a charger, maybe 6,7 mins. By the time I’ve gone for a pee and checked a few emails I’m off again. Tesla opening up the chargers to non Tesla, has helped hugely.

Assuming the company car tax remains lower or at the very least equal to PHEV, I cannot see myself going to a fossil fueled car at all.

I still hope the move to EV for mainstream cars happens, and the development of synthetic fuels continues so we can keep the special petrol cars on the road in the future.
 
@Journey that's really helpful. You're correct - anxiety over the unknown.

Are cables and plugs standard? For example- I plan a trip and stop off at Oxford services. Assume the tesla chargers are compatible and I can book a slot ahead of time using their website ?

Oxford services Tesla is not open to non Tesla. However if you come off at Banbury there’s a bank of Tesla and osprey 2 miles off the motorway.
 
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