Mass shooting at Bondi beach Australia

adidan · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:27

Noughtboy said:
This is an attack on extremism in all it's forms, whether Jihadis. Christian fundamentalists or Jewish extremists. And those who condone or excuse actions undertaken by these groups.

Agreed.

Dis86 · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:40

Hagar said:
Generally by running away.

Youre not outrunning either of those.

JonRGV250 · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:45

Uther said:
I see the Americans have foiled a terrorist attack that was to take place on Christmas Eve. Another Palestine supporters group.
Security services around the world must be getting a bit twitchy now with Christmas nearly here.

Hence why so many Christmas markets and suchlike are surrounded by diversity barriers these days.

Uther · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:45

Dis86 said:
Youre not outrunning either of those.

I can guarentee I can outrun a shark.

Colonel_Klinck · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:53

Dis86 said:
A single person with a knife has killed more than that.

Not on a beach like that they aren't.

Dis86 said:
These men used shotguns and a bolt action rifle. Not ARs.

Yes and imagine how much worse it would be with an AR type rifle.

Dis86 said:
The London and Manchester attackers used bombs. London Bridge was vehicles and knives. Manchester synagogue knives and a vehicle. I can go on if you'd like?

And this proves what? If they had access to assault style rifles the attacks could have been so much worse. That you are claiming gun control makes no difference just makes you sound like the American gun nut.

Colonel_Klinck · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:54

Mr Badger said:
Not that I'm in favour of people being allowed to own guns without a good reason and proper controls. But tell us again how you humanely took down that 6 foot tall kangaroo and that massive salt water crocodile with a .22 rimfire rifle?

Isn't that where a shotgun with buckshot would come in handy?

Dis86 · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:55

Colonel_Klinck said:
Not on a beach like that they aren't.

Yes and imagine how much worse it would be with an AR type rifle.

And this proves what? If they had access to assault style rifles the attacks could have been so much worse. That you are claiming gun control makes no difference just makes you sound like the American gun nuts.

It proves that when they want to kill a lot of people they dont need ARs so your point is nonsense.
If needs be we go to the easiest one...9/11. No guns, nevermind ARs.

Dis86 · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:55

Uther said:
I can guarentee I can outrun a shark.

You dont need to. Just get a bigger boat.

BUDFORCE · 15 Dec 2025 at 17:59

Colonel_Klinck said:
Isn't that where a shotgun with buckshot would come in handy?

Nah you can't use a shotgun to humanly kill larger animals, for example you can't use a shotgun to hunt dear in this country.

Shotguns are fine for birds and rabbits, but nothing larger.

Don't get me wrong if you are within 20 feet of whatever, your gonna mess it up real good, but at any distance they are no good.

Colonel_Klinck · 15 Dec 2025 at 18:34

Dis86 said:
It proves that when they want to kill a lot of people they dont need ARs so your point is nonsense.
If needs be we go to the easiest one...9/11. No guns, nevermind ARs.

LOL yeah because hijacking airliners is as easy as buying an assault rifle where they are legal and going out in public and using it.

You just keeping digging that hole deeper.

Colonel_Klinck · 15 Dec 2025 at 18:42

BUDFORCE said:
Nah you can't use a shotgun to humanly kill larger animals, for example you can't use a shotgun to hunt dear in this country.

Shotguns are fine for birds and rabbits, but nothing larger.

Don't get me wrong if you are within 20 feet of whatever, your gonna mess it up real good, but at any distance they are no good.

Buckshot is designed to take down bucks. You could also use a slug.

I just don't see why the pubic should have access to larger calibre rounds that cause large amounts of damage. Park rangers or officials who are specially licenced is a different thing.

Dis86 · 15 Dec 2025 at 18:45

Colonel_Klinck said:
LOL yeah because hijacking airliners is as easy as buying an assault rifle where they are legal and going out in public and using it.

You just keeping digging that hole deeper.

Theres no hole. Youre wrong. Simple. Ive cited multiple examples but again youre completely in denial.
Want more examples to show youre talking tosh? How many ARs were needed for Lockerbie? How many for Liverpool? How many were used to shoot David Amess? Reading, none there either. Streatham? Parsons Green?

Tell you what though, there is a trend there!

BUDFORCE · 15 Dec 2025 at 22:05

Colonel_Klinck said:
Buckshot is designed to take down bucks. You could also use a slug.

You can't use a shotgun to hunt deer in this country.

It people elsewhere shoot at deer with a shotgun then whatever.

You need something high calibre, .308 or equivalent ideally .223 probably ok.

If you hit a dear at any range with a shotgun chances are you injure it enough for it to run off and die several days later.

You won't easily get a licence for using slugs here full stop, they don't like to grant them.

dowie · 15 Dec 2025 at 22:59

Colonel_Klinck said:
Why would a member of the public require a high powered rifle in Australia? There are no bears of other large threats to justify a larger calibre. .22 rimfire is plenty for hunting/pest control [...]

Eh?

Mr Badger said:
Not that I'm in favour of people being allowed to own guns without a good reason and proper controls. But tell us again how you humanely took down that 6 foot tall kangaroo and that massive salt water crocodile with a .22 rimfire rifle?

^^^ this - good luck shooting a croc or a kangaroo or a charging pack of wild hogs with a .22 rifle

Emlyn_Dewar · 16 Dec 2025 at 02:57

Uther said:
I see the Americans have foiled a terrorist attack that was to take place on Christmas Eve. Another Palestine supporters group.
Security services around the world must be getting a bit twitchy now with Christmas nearly here.

Allowing all the pointless pro-palestine protests, in countries that have nothing to do with it, hasn't helped this kind of situation at all.
Hopefully we see a crackdown on this going forward.

Grim5 · 16 Dec 2025 at 03:30

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Allowing all the pointless pro-palestine protests, in countries that have nothing to do with it, hasn't helped this kind of situation at all.
Hopefully we see a crackdown on this going forward.

Yep well said

Colonel_Klinck · 16 Dec 2025 at 07:38

Dis86 said:
Theres no hole. Youre wrong. Simple. Ive cited multiple examples but again youre completely in denial.
Want more examples to show youre talking tosh? How many ARs were needed for Lockerbie? How many for Liverpool? How many were used to shoot David Amess? Reading, none there either. Streatham? Parsons Green?

Tell you what though, there is a trend there!

The hole that is you think a lack of gun control wouldn't make these attacks so much worse and make them so much easier. You'll never stop a determined person but you don't have to make it easier by making weapons of war easily available. This is the sort of 2A thinking we hear from gun nuts in the US.

Rroff · 16 Dec 2025 at 08:07

Colonel_Klinck said:
Not on a beach like that they aren't.

Yes and imagine how much worse it would be with an AR type rifle.

And this proves what? If they had access to assault style rifles the attacks could have been so much worse. That you are claiming gun control makes no difference just makes you sound like the American gun nut.

Assault style rifle in my opinion is completely meaningless in this context - semi-automatic and automatic weapons is what largely makes the difference - without getting into the weeds of calibre/round type, accuracy and effective range.

Personally I'm ideologically very against restrictions due to the actions of a small number of crazy people though there has to be a balance to it and the vast majority of firearms enthusiasts can still enjoy the hobby without having full auto, etc. otherwise it gets silly.

What I found crazy about this and a couple of other recent mass shootings - there seems to be an increasing number of people initially completely oblivious and then just pause momentarily before trying to continue with their day like they can't even conceive they might be a target, mind boggling.

jpaul · 16 Dec 2025 at 09:07

to wit. Tunisian beach shooting, many british killed.

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Allowing all the pointless pro-palestine protests, in countries that have nothing to do with it, hasn't helped this kind of situation at all.
Hopefully we see a crackdown on this going forward.

the banal trope, cut down on free speech and right to protest about Appartheid, Israeli state -
yes Lord Young too, in r4pm interview yesterday his answer was there are people in israel protesting about their government, why do we need to do that in the UK - lol

also - head in sand V

uscool · 16 Dec 2025 at 09:26

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Allowing all the pointless pro-palestine protests, in countries that have nothing to do with it, hasn't helped this kind of situation at all.
Hopefully we see a crackdown on this going forward.

Yeah when the state keeps breaking international law , yes the few take it too far which is wrong when it's protests against the state but to not allow and kept silent is also wrong

As in involvement might want to look into F-35 parts exports, the RAF flight paths from Cyprus and the case of James Henderson, a former royal marine who was riding in a World Central Kitchen convoy in Gaza when it was hit by an Israeli strike on 1 April 2024