9800X3D Failures/Deaths in the UK?

[jigger]

hmmm looks like I'll stick with the 7700...

I wonder if get money back for product not fit for purpose?

A YouTube video successfully replicating the issue will bag you fortune in ad revenue. Nobody has managed to prove the issue yet.

 

[G J]

I went back up to one month on the ASRock subreddit and sorted by new and listed all the CPU failures.

9800X3D	24
9950X3D	3
9950X	1
7950X3D	2
9600X	4
9700X	1
7900X	1
7800X3D	1
7500f	1
9700	1

Motherboard used:

X870E	13
X870	8
B850	10
X670E	1
B650	6

There was also one 7800X3D and 9950X3D with burn marks on the CPU.

 

[xtal191]

Any CPU's friend with my board PG Riptide B650E?

Have the same motherboard with a 7600, was hoping to get the 9800x3D soon but dunno what to do now

 

[Yoko]

Did it damage your socket too?

No visible damage on either.

 

[Vimes]

I went back up to one month on the ASRock subreddit and sorted by new and listed all the CPU failures.

9800X3D	24
9950X3D	3
9950X	1
7950X3D	2
9600X	4
9700X	1
7900X	1
7800X3D	1
7500f	1
9700	1

Motherboard used:

X870E	13
X870	8
B850	10
X670E	1
B650	6

There was also one 7800X3D and 9950X3D with burn marks on the CPU.

Before the 9000 series of CPU's came out there could have been a very limited issue going on, noting the 7800x3D, although with a sample size of one that might be insignificant for a wider issue.

I have not read about any official AMD response to this..? Remembering that it can seem to be an occasional occurrence on other brands of boards, not like Asrock though..?

 

[hornetstinger]

Would be good "CPU install date" and "BIOS revisision on install"

Which of those 9800 died when CPU's fitted into 3.5 firmware for example

 

[loonyk]

Would be good "CPU install date" and "BIOS revisision on install"

Which of those 9800 died when CPU's fitted into 3.5 firmware for example

Agree with that. Mine was in use since very early bios revision, and potentially damage was done a long time ago waiting for fatigue to kill cpu. It could be just a theory, but it could be the reason too

 

[scrivz69]

Typically I have just upgraded to a 9700x and an Asrock B850 Live mixer wifi and totally missed this thread before buying or I might have got a different mobo. I am on the latest Bios so fingers crossed all stays well.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Mines died. Had a 9950x3d though and asrock nova.

 

[jonneymendoza]

What is that people are attracted to with the Asrock boards for the AM5, over that of choosing another brand..?
I have a tendency, suppose familiarity and good customer service influence that, to have used Gigabyte, albeit I have not build an AMD based PC for such a long time.
I take it that from what is understood, proportionate to their sales, the Asrock boards stand out as somehow being more problematic at cremating the CPU's..?

Asrock had the best lane sharing configuration at the time I bought it but now Gigabyte has one similar

 

[loonyk]

Asrock had the best lane sharing configuration at the time I bought it but now Gigabyte has one similar

Which one is that? I got nova juat because of how the lanes were distributed, plus number of USBs.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Which one is that? I got nova juat because of how the lanes were distributed, plus number of USBs.

Aeros extreme x3d ai.

Cheaper than the nova as well.

Came out quite recently around Aug September ish?

 

[loonyk]

Aeros extreme x3d ai.

Cheaper than the nova as well.

Came out quite recently around Aug September ish?

Xtreme x3d ai bs is 700+ quid motherboard. Tou probably talking about the elite x3d which is 300+ motherboard

 

[jonneymendoza]

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Xtreme x3d ai bs is 700+ quid motherboard. Tou probably talking about the elite x3d which is 300+ motherboard

Sorry yea the elite.

 

[jonneymendoza]

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[Rroff]

Does this issue seem to be mainly an Asrock and 9800x3d combination..?
Has anyone noticed CPU's other than the x3d variant being fried.?
Also, could it be any Asrock within the X870 range.? Assuming that the B versions are so far known to be good ?

Thanks........Good luck as well ..!

Failures consistent with the symptoms have been seen on other boards and CPUs but far less often - there are probably like 1 instance on Gigabyte for every 200+ on ASRock - 9800X3D + ASRock combination seems to be several orders of magnitude more likely to encounter the issue. The issue also seems to be far more likely on specific batches but other batches don't make you 100% immune to it (this potentially goes for both CPU batch and motherboard batch as there seems to be more than one factor involved).

It is a bit of a weird one.

Ironically for all the drama about Intel's 13th and 14th gen degradation there are far more actual reports of 9800X3Ds failing - there is 1-3 reports a day currently of AMD CPUs failing with symptoms consistent with these issues.

EDIT: I will also add here that 9800X3D failure rates at retail are still very very low - it is still one of the least returned by percentage of sold, though due to the fairly high volume of sales makes up a considerable percentage of returned CPUs by unit.

 

[jonneymendoza]

@loonyk Link to all x870 boards pci share lane stuff

MoboMaps - Motherboard PCIe Lanes

 

[welshrat]

Failures consistent with the symptoms have been seen on other boards and CPUs but far less often - there are probably like 1 instance on Gigabyte for every 200+ on ASRock - 9800X3D + ASRock combination seems to be several orders of magnitude more likely to encounter the issue. The issue also seems to be far more likely on specific batches but other batches don't make you 100% immune to it (this potentially goes for both CPU batch and motherboard batch as there seems to be more than one factor involved).

It is a bit of a weird one.

Ironically for all the drama about Intel's 13th and 14th gen degradation there are far more actual reports of 9800X3Ds failing - there is 1-3 reports a day currently of AMD CPUs failing with symptoms consistent with these issues.

EDIT: I will also add here that 9800X3D failure rates at retail are still very very low - it is still one of the least returned by percentage of sold, though due to the fairly high volume of sales makes up a considerable percentage of returned CPUs by unit.

Really weird one isn't it, at least with Intel there appears to be a reason. I can't believe that someone at AMD or Asrock doesn't know the truth here. Hopefully zen 6 will have some better inbuilt mitigations to prevent this.

It's surely in both asrocks and AMDs interest to sort this? Maybe they have as there appear to be less cases on reddit, prior to 3.40 there were multiple reports daily whereas now it's one every few days, possibly due to damage that has already happened ?

There was one guy on reddit who worked in a computer store who said the riptide boards were the worst, even then they were within the 1-2%

 

[sastusbulbas]

Current failure rates seem to be estimated at 1% with around 200 failures per 2"000"000 Asrock AM5 motherboards sold and little confirmation or verification of actual cause or anything that never seen bios prior to 3.40 failing.

I believe 4% failure rate is deemed superb.

In comparison it is rumoured far more 7800X3D died due to Asus motherboards in 2024.And even more Intel previous gen.

I bought the Asrock Nova simply due to being able to run USB4 and five NVMe without affecting PCIe lanes, as well as a bug display, backplate, power and reset. Nothing else Inc the MSI Godlike could offer this.
In fact if you look at failure rates, a larger percentage of MSI users have had issues with Godlike displays as well as PCIe lane dropping in general over X870E.

The problem is confidence, consumers and owners of Asrock motherboards have none or are losing faith.

The 9950X3D was on sale during Black Friday and I could not bring myself to buy it.
I actually contemplated an MSI or Gigabyte back connect and dropping NVMe drives.

I also have no faith in the Reddit posts as a number are clearly enthusiast users playing with bios with many still on 3.15 or regurgitating old news and experience. 200 out of 2'000"000 is eff all, yet it's blown out of proportion like an AI generated King Kong movie.

That YouTube experts can't pin it, and no answer or definitive guarantee from the experts at Asrock and AMD who I also hold responsible as their CPU's failed to meet the specification they agreed to with Asrock.

At this point I feel AMD simply push CPU's too hard, as everything is at it's limit hence the mental situation of 95c temps and undervolting.

I have socket 775 systems more reliable and stable than some of this new developed by kids poorly cack we now overpay for.

I want reliability, not to chase bios revisions and undervolt so I don't end up with a room heater while browsing.

Be as well changing the forum to Undervolting UK these days.

Now I'm just sitting on a fence waiting to see how Intel and AMD's new ranges fair next year, with no confidence in AMD, Intel,Asrock,Asus and the future of memory pricing.

It's as if they want to kill consumer PC and PC gaming off.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Current failure rates seem to be estimated at 1% with around 200 failures per 2"000"000 Asrock AM5 motherboards sold and little confirmation or verification of actual cause or anything that never seen bios prior to 3.40 failing.

I believe 4% failure rate is deemed superb.

In comparison it is rumoured far more 7800X3D died due to Asus motherboards in 2024.And even more Intel previous gen.

I bought the Asrock Nova simply due to being able to run USB4 and five NVMe without affecting PCIe lanes, as well as a bug display, backplate, power and reset. Nothing else Inc the MSI Godlike could offer this.
In fact if you look at failure rates, a larger percentage of MSI users have had issues with Godlike displays as well as PCIe lane dropping in general over X870E.

The problem is confidence, consumers and owners of Asrock motherboards have none or are losing faith.

The 9950X3D was on sale during Black Friday and I could not bring myself to buy it.
I actually contemplated an MSI or Gigabyte back connect and dropping NVMe drives.

I also have no faith in the Reddit posts as a number are clearly enthusiast users playing with bios with many still on 3.15 or regurgitating old news and experience. 200 out of 2'000"000 is eff all, yet it's blown out of proportion like an AI generated King Kong movie.

That YouTube experts can't pin it, and no answer or definitive guarantee from the experts at Asrock and AMD who I also hold responsible as their CPU's failed to meet the specification they agreed to with Asrock.

At this point I feel AMD simply push CPU's too hard, as everything is at it's limit hence the mental situation of 95c temps and undervolting.

I have socket 775 systems more reliable and stable than some of this new developed by kids poorly cack we now overpay for.

I want reliability, not to chase bios revisions and undervolt so I don't end up with a room heater while browsing.

Be as well changing the forum to Undervolting UK these days.

Now I'm just sitting on a fence waiting to see how Intel and AMD's new ranges fair next year, with no confidence in AMD, Intel,Asrock,Asus and the future of memory pricing.

It's as if they want to kill consumer PC and PC gaming off.

Mate I can only speak from experience and my cpu died on the asrock. I've been building pc since 486 days and I've never ever ever had a cpu die on me.

Have done some Crazy stuff with builds from custom water blocks. Over clocking etc etc.

Heck I have motherboard and cpu that's that I bought when we was still a member of the EU mate and all working fine.

I jumped on asrock because they at the time had the best lane sharing but not anymore.

Have been a Asus fan before then and past 3 or 4 gens have been Asus board.