Just noticed that the cheapest ddr5 on ocuk for 16gb is £179.99. But for £239 an intel gpu(pre-order) with a free game that has 16gb ddr6 on it. Wonder if we will see anyone using something like https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap_on_video_RAM to utilise the spare vram.
DRAM Prices Surge 172% YoY with No Signs of Slowing Down
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or sodim to U-DIMM convertors maybe. was eying that up as an option
Cannot see those working with good timing though. Still better than GPUvRAM, I guess!
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i'm actually interest to know what people think on it, or if people have tied it,
but not expecting 1:1 performance obviously
but not expecting 1:1 performance obviously
On my old system, using 6GB out of 8GB on Watcher of Realms. Thousands of games out there that don't need above 8GB, I bet loads of people have games they have never played including me. I've played two games everyday practically over the last 5-6 years.
Plenty of companies running their office machines on 4GB of DDR2 / DDR3 for Excel, even housing associations, councils etc having worked for them, you don't need a lot of Ram for MS office etc.
Other national organisations using ChromeOS on their PC's and Chromebooks with google apps only for office with only 4GB Ram as well, don't need more than that for their internal database programs.
Plenty of companies running their office machines on 4GB of DDR2 / DDR3 for Excel, even housing associations, councils etc having worked for them, you don't need a lot of Ram for MS office etc.
Other national organisations using ChromeOS on their PC's and Chromebooks with google apps only for office with only 4GB Ram as well, don't need more than that for their internal database programs.
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Sadly this happens every time (the surge of prices forcing retailers to sell high, not the pricing by retailers), you can only hope that a retailer like OCUK offers it at a reasonable price back to members or on a heads up sale to prevent scalpers. Remember the GPU shortage days? AMD RX580 8GB for £400+ when it should have been £280+, OCUK came in clutch for members and gave us a chance at them at more reasonable prices - I think mine came in at £320? Or there abouts.This is crazy. To think I paid £125 for 32GB of 6000CL28 in July
I'm personally glad (much like you) I went with the CL30 6000 64GB for my 9800x3D rig back last year (with 2TB boot and 4TB store NVMe and a 2TB SATA storage SSD) for barely £300, would be hell trying to source the components in that now cheaply.
Just annoyed I didn't try to source the 256GB DDR5 kit before they evaporated entirely. And must now be an absolute fortune to obtain.
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Or you could be a corpse by then
this is true then i'd only need to worry about BO issues. maybe a new Lynx brand will help..im thinking its a good way to save money and re-focus my mind to other entertainments/destractions/money sinks.
extend the hardware i have with linux untill it fails, and accept new A/AA/AAA titles are out of my range with out considering other options.
beginning of frbuary is my decieded..
have a good nigh
I havnt been looking at PC parts for awhile - and geez - hasnt everything gone up. The way its going you need a mortage to build a new pc. Start of the year I brought some 4TB's M.2 for around £200, now looking nearly double. RAM wise, still on DDR4 - cant see me switching to a DDR5 system for long time.
I put 32Gb of DDR4 in my system to start with (2x 32Gb). Later on when DDR4 was going EOL (and cheap), I thought why not buy another set (it was going for £120, in 2023 - so why not?). So in the end got 64Gb - I know overkill but was thinking at the time; when DDR4 disappears, getting another set would be impossible (and may be something useful in the future). I had a few systems EOL because I couldnt get the memory for them - shame GPU's VRAM isnt upgradable.
in DDR5 now that would cost around £800 for 64gb? 400+ for 32Gb?
geez, sad times really for PC's. I guess sooner or later, the AI bubble will burst - not sure whats so great about it atm (maybe just me?), most of the time I seen it being used for dancing cats or fake videos on youtube.
I put 32Gb of DDR4 in my system to start with (2x 32Gb). Later on when DDR4 was going EOL (and cheap), I thought why not buy another set (it was going for £120, in 2023 - so why not?). So in the end got 64Gb - I know overkill but was thinking at the time; when DDR4 disappears, getting another set would be impossible (and may be something useful in the future). I had a few systems EOL because I couldnt get the memory for them - shame GPU's VRAM isnt upgradable.
in DDR5 now that would cost around £800 for 64gb? 400+ for 32Gb?
geez, sad times really for PC's. I guess sooner or later, the AI bubble will burst - not sure whats so great about it atm (maybe just me?), most of the time I seen it being used for dancing cats or fake videos on youtube.
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Not sure about an 8x increase but Google Gemini says there was a 3x spike in 1999 after an earthquake in Taiwan ... Fabs weren't affected but much of the power grid they need was.
There was some disruption for similar reasons in 96/97.
I remember it because I had a small PC business back then & I maxed out every card I had to buy memory (including £20k+ on a personal Amex card, which they were very unhappy about, wife wasn't impressed either). Over the course of the next 6 months I made a 70% margin on memory while still being 30-40% cheaper than big online/magazine retailers.
I knew about it because someone I knew in Taiwan had posted something on usenet about all hell breaking loose at work. My supplier had no idea and was very confused as to why I was buying 40% of their entire stock of memory
In the past its generally been a natural disaster/political upheaval which spikes memory prices by more than 100%.
This time around its a huge bubble which is eating up supply and its not a quick process switching from DDR5 to HBM & back - assuming the bubble bursts and leaves enough money to retool given they all seem to be inventing money between them via stock deals etc.
I suspect buying pre-built machines from the big names is going to be most cost-effective for the next 18 months or so.
Laptop buyers - probably buy it now/just after xmas. I suspect after Q2 2026 that base/mid-level lappies will come with 8GB of RAM and/or a smaller nvme drive/higher price.
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The 64gb kit I bought for my laptop, £138 now costs £415 to buy again :O
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guys when do you think the AI bubble will burst so that RAM goes back to normal pricing/.?
isnt it somthing to do with not enough to go around so tthe demand goes up hence the price?
and is that rare earth minerals so dry at the moment, the war the USA vs CHINA beef, all affecting productivity
wondering when normality will return so people can but stuff at RRP
isnt it somthing to do with not enough to go around so tthe demand goes up hence the price?
and is that rare earth minerals so dry at the moment, the war the USA vs CHINA beef, all affecting productivity
wondering when normality will return so people can but stuff at RRP
I could not see prices ever returning to the lows that we saw DDR5 drop to.
Normalised pricing will be much higher than it ever was, even if, and when, supply can meet demands.
At that point it will be difficult to figure what is profiteering from retail, as many people will be glad that prices have reduced significantly, even though they could be likely double or more what the lows brought.
Normalised pricing will be much higher than it ever was, even if, and when, supply can meet demands.
At that point it will be difficult to figure what is profiteering from retail, as many people will be glad that prices have reduced significantly, even though they could be likely double or more what the lows brought.
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It will be when ot will be. No point waiting. Just get on with life and check again a couple.of years and see what's what then.
What one manufacturer said was it wont normalise until 2028, so there is that.
Unless you was looking to get a new pc or upgrade, shouldn't make any difference. That's the position i am in anyway. Waiting for DDR6.
That is the issue for many though there are literally millions of PC's that don't meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11.
(Yes I know the alternatives, signup for extended updates, bypass W11 requirements with Rufus etc, W10 LTSC iot, switch to linux, buy a PS5 and so on).
Look at some of the "refurbished" PCs with pre 8th gen cpus that are being sold with W11 pre installed at inflated prices to people that don't really know what they are buying.