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Which of these cards would be better for Cyberpunk 2077?

Saint.Million

Saint.Million

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I already have a 5060 8gb, but It's not enough to handle the raytracing.

So which would be better? 5060 Ti 16gb or 5070 12gb.

5070 is the better card ofc, but I'm not sure if the extra VRAM on the 5060Ti would be more useful for raytracing?
 
heatonpkmassive said:
Innit. Because the choice is 16 gigs of VRAM with a card that can't really leverage it, or a faster card that will soon be hampered by a lack of VRAM.

That ain't a choice, that's a waste of money right there. In this instance go big or go home.
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I don't personally buy into the whole VRAM scare, myself.

I don't personally use RT+PT, but I do game at 4K DLSS, max settings where possible, and FG when required, mainly playing SP games, bar COD/CS2 MP, and I'm yet to see anything max out the 12GB that I have, in over 40 AAA games of the last 3+ years. Granted there's probably a few rare exceptions, such as the last FarCry, but based on the games that I play, that's all I can honestly think of. I don't play RTS or Sim games, so I don't think I'll be effected.

However, on AMD cards, I've seen them use more at the same resolution/settings. Maybe it just hogs more VRAM as a reserve because it's there to take? Maybe Nvidia has sneaky compression or it's 'just optimised better'? I've no idea.

But considering everything will be using UE5 for years to come, and that doesn't go flatline 12GB at 4K DLSS, then I've no fear that a 16GB card wouldn't easily last another 5 years from now.
 
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Nabinium said:
Guessing you're talking about Far Cry 6? I haven't played that yet, but I've been playing Far Cry 5 recently and that was gobbling up my VRAM. Probably doesn't help that I've also been using the HD texture pack :cry:
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The one with Gusto from BB in? That one, IIRC it'd be FarCry 7? As I did FC5/6 on the PS4 (luckily)
I do think, that they're pretty dire and generic anyway, so I'm not missing out, and whenever I do go back to play the ones I've missed, I always think the same lol, waste of time.
 
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The one with Gusto from BB in? That one, IIRC it'd be FarCry 7? As I did FC5/6 on the PS4 (luckily) they're pretty dire and generic anyway so I'm not missing out, and whenever I do go back to play the ones I've missed, I always think the same lol, waste of time.
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Yeah, Gusto. FC5 is so long too! At least that's what it feels like for me. I still haven't finished it, though I'm also doing all the side missions first, so that might be another factor.
 
Nabinium said:
Yeah, Gusto. FC5 is so long too! At least that's what it feels like for me. I still haven't finished it, though I'm also doing all the side missions first, so that might be another factor.
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I wouldn't bother with the side missions, they're your usual copy and paste generic crap. I have a theory that lesser/rookie devs/writers produce side missions, to thicken up the lacking length of the true main story/missions.
I've rarely played a game that had good side missions.

I didn't mind parts of the story of 5 though, so I just went through it as quick as possible, after having completed 4 before it. The ending is a bit pants and you'll be annoyed to know you need to then get the DLC-esque next game 6, which felt like DLC more than a sequel, and a bit of a con. I didn't bother to play more than an hour of it.
I'd of rathered 5 ended properly.
 
Saint.Million said:
I already have a 5060 8gb, but It's not enough to handle the raytracing.
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Which game(s) are you trying to use ray tracing in and to what level?

To be blunt, heavy ray tracing kills all current cards (depending on res/settings), so I'd find it helpful to know what the target here is?

If the target is max ray tracing at 4K, in every game/latest AAA game for the next 5 years. I'd just save your money, even a 5090 can't/won't do it.
 
Deleted member 280263 said:
I don't personally buy into the whole VRAM scare, myself.

I game at 4K DLSS, max settings where possible, and FG when required, mainly playing SP games, bar COD/CS2 MP, and I'm yet to see anything max out the 12GB that I have, in over 40 AAA games of the last 3+ years. Granted there's probably a few rare exceptions, such as the last FarCry, but based on the games that I play, that's all I can honestly think of. I don't play RTS or Sim games, so I don't think I'll be effected.

However, on AMD cards, I've seen them use more at the same resolution/settings. Maybe it just hogs more VRAM as a reserve because it's there to take? Maybe Nvidia has sneaky compression or it's 'just optimised better'? I've no idea.

But considering everything will be using UE5 for years to come, and that doesn't go flatline 12GB at 4K DLSS, then I've no fear that a 16GB card wouldn't easily last another 5 years from now.
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I do to a degree when it comes to ray tracing or HD texture packs. But turning down some settings which make little difference visually fixes that.

It's the mention of ray tracing in the OP's first comments that make me think if you're gonna spend a few hundred quid on an upgrade, neither of these cards are worth the money because of either the VRAM amount or lack of grunt and the ray tracing requirement is key in me holding that opinion. Games can still look good on these cards of course, it's just not a good use of funds considering either of these two from the 5060 the OP already has.

All in my opinion of course!
 
Nabinium said:
Guessing you're talking about Far Cry 6? I haven't played that yet, but I've been playing Far Cry 5 recently and that was gobbling up my VRAM. Probably doesn't help that I've also been using the HD texture pack :cry:
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Far Cry 6 did indeed make my 3080 10gb card fart a bit with the HD texture pack installed.

That said, you had to really pixel peep to see the difference between SD and HD textures.

Well my **** eyes did anyway :D
 
heatonpkmassive said:
I do to a degree when it comes to ray tracing or HD texture packs. But turning down some settings which make little difference visually fixes that.

It's the mention of ray tracing in the OP's first comments that make me think if you're gonna spend a few hundred quid on an upgrade, neither of these cards are worth the money because of either the VRAM amount or lack of grunt and the ray tracing requirement is key in me holding that opinion. Games can still look good on these cards of course, it's just not a good use of funds considering either of these two from the 5060 the OP already has.

All in my opinion of course!
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Whoops, I'd forgotten that the OP wanted it for RT, my opinion was purely based on raster :)
I've edited my original post so it makes more sense now :cry:
But I totally agree with you in that respect :)
5070Ti is the easy choice here.
 
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Looks like my best bet for the time being is just to wait for prices to fall, or buy second hand.

My budget is only around £4-550, as indicated by the choices I presented in the OP.

And for the record (since it was asked), I'm only on 1080p with most game settings at max, except the ones I don't understand, which have been left on default. And all the crappy undesirable effects turned off (motion blur, DoF etc etc).
 
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Saint.Million said:
I do appreciate the replies so far, but everyone saying 5070 Ti isn't taking into account the budget. And given the optione I presented in the OP, I'd say it's pretty clear the budget is around £4-500.

Saying "get something more expensive!" isn't too helpful in this situation. But I do appreciate the replies nonetheless.
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At the end of the day it's your money to do with as you please.

But I am taking the budget into account, I'm telling you the performance increase you'd get just is not worth that kind of cash. What is more, you'd be replacing both of those cards too quickly for what they'd cost. Some 5070tis have been on sale for £750.

When people come here asking for advice, I'd be doing them a massive disservice by encouraging them do something I myself wouldn't do.
 
Saint.Million said:
I already have a 5060 8gb, but It's not enough to handle the raytracing.

So which would be better? 5060 Ti 16gb or 5070 12gb.

5070 is the better card ofc, but I'm not sure if the extra VRAM on the 5060Ti would be more useful for raytracing?
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Saint.Million said:
My budget is only around £4-550, as indicated by the choices I presented in the OP.
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What you said in the OP didn't really indicate your budget though. Yes, you indeed mentioned cheaper options, but how were people to know that was your budget? I haven't read anything that said you can only spend X amount until your recent post. Those two cards could have just been two random ones you picked out and wanted some advice on, who knows?

Therefore, in my eyes, it's not too surprising that people have been suggesting to just save up for a 5070ti instead, partly because we didn't know how much you are able to spend and the other reason being the performance increase from those two cards simply isn't worth the cost.
 
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Saint.Million said:
And for the record (since it was asked), I'm only on 1080p with most game settings at max, except the ones I don't understand, which have been left on default. And all the crappy undesirable effects turned off (motion blur, DoF etc etc).
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Then why do you feel the need to spend half a grand purely for ray tracing? It's nice to have but it's not going to change your entire world, if you can play Cyberpunk decently on your current hardware have fun and keep doing so.
 
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