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Calls for AMD to bring back 5800x3d

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Oh... look at that, 32GB of DDR5 ram is now £400, this has given me an idea, lets push the price of 3 year old used CPU's up to £400 and make them unaffordable too..... :D

AMD, flood the market with affordable 5800X3D's, please :)
 
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humbug said:
People are *****

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Oh... look at that, 32GB of ram is now £400, this has given me an idea, lets push the price of 3 year old used CPU's up to £400 and make them unaffordable too..... :D
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Not really - 5800X3D is essentially the "best" cpu available for AM4 - it has never been priced cheap "like an older platform CPU".

The best CPUs for a platform always attract a premium even years later, simply because some would rather buy a drop in upgrade rather than change everything/reinstall.
 
Armageus said:
Not really - 5800X3D is essentially the "best" cpu available for AM4 - it has never been priced cheap "like an older platform CPU".

The best CPUs for a platform always attract a premium even years later, simply because some would rather buy a drop in upgrade rather than change everything/reinstall.
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You definitely moonlight as a scalper on ebay ;)

JK ;) :D
 
Armageus said:
Not really - 5800X3D is essentially the "best" cpu available for AM4 - it has never been priced cheap "like an older platform CPU".

The best CPUs for a platform always attract a premium even years later, simply because some would rather buy a drop in upgrade rather than change everything/reinstall.
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It was always cheaper than the later generation CPU's from AMD brand new.

Yes it does anoy me, Youtubers do this with used GPU's, recommending used out of warranty 4 year old RTX 4070's at £350 because it has 12GB of Vram, what they are doing is pushing the unsuspecting layman to pay brand new 3 year warranty 5060 Ti 8GB prices for a GPU that is so old its got months or weeks rather than rears of life left and push the price of used GPU's up to new GPU prices just to stick it to Nvidia because of stingy VRam from them.

And they are pleased with themselves doing it....
 
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It was cheeper for me to move to a 8600K rather than upgrade to a 7700K when I had a 6600K and I was able to get a Z690 and a 12600K used for the price of a used 9900K. This upgrade cost me about £20 after selling the mobo and 8700K.

When I got my 13600K the 5800X3D was pretty much double the price.
 
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G J said:
It was cheeper for me to move to a 8600K rather than upgrade to a 7700K when I had a 6600K and I was able to get a Z690 and a 12600K used for the price of a used 9900K. This upgrade cost me about £20 after selling the mobo and 8700K.

When I got my 13600K the 5800X3D was pretty much double the price.
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How do you deal with the ongoing shame of owning an Intel though? :D
 
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adidan said:
I wonder if motherboard manufacturers get hit by knock on effects we'll see boards appear that can run DDR4?

They've done it for LGA1700 but I've no idea if it's even architecturally possible for any others.

AFAIK there's only the AsRock at the moment
www.gamesradar.com

This new motherboard has DDR4 and DDR5 RAM support, and it took an AI-pricing surge for that to finally become a thing

This motherboard has 6 DIMM slots for your RAM, and I hope that becomes a more widespread design point
www.gamesradar.com www.gamesradar.com
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Rumour is AMD have cancelled the end of B650 Chipsets to at least make AM5 motherboards that bit cheaper.

Micron have reportedly said Ram shortages will continue through 2028, AMD have said GPU's will increase in price by $20 to $40, which is not too bad.... Nvidia are no longer bundling Vram with chip's so AIB's will have to source their own, that will push the price of Nvidia GPU's up.

I was going to upgrade my system to AM5 early next year, get XMass out of the way first..... but that's no longer happening, not with 64GB of DDR5 now at £600. :cry:

I'll stick with my now 5 year old 5800X, its still capable....

All this could be devastating to this space, people are just going to stick with what they have or get out and buy a PS5 instead, until the price of those becomes unaffordable, not to mention what this might do to some retailers who trade in this segment.
 
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I properly considered a 5800x3d I have a 5800x regularly bought on release, to be fair it's a good CPU.

I didn't in the end, and I think I somewhat regretted it.

If they fired up production again and provided not sill price of probably get one.

I wouldn't buy a used one.
 
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100%. Retailers will be laughing at the megabucks they make scalping memory bought when it was cheap, right now. But soon it’ll be doom and gloom.
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The only people buying Ram at these prices are those scouting for available memory for AI stuff, its not gamers and with this reportedly going on for 3 or 4 years when things do return to normal there aren't going to be any PC gamers left, even when the demand drops off i think they will still try to sell at inflated prices because Ram that was £600 now being £400 looks like a bargain even if that's still £150 over what that Ram was a couple of months ago.

We are in an unsustainable inflation spiral, with everything everyone is trying to get more money out of everyone else, from taxes to luxury goods to basic food its all significantly inflated and people are running out of money to pay for it, there is a massive car crash incoming.
 
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humbug said:
Rumour is AMD have cancelled the end of B650 Chipsets to at least make AM5 motherboards that bit cheaper.

Micron have reportedly said Ram shortages will continue through 2028, AMD have said GPU's will increase in price by $20 to $40, which is not too bad.... Nvidia are no longer bundling Vram with chip's so AIB's will have to source their own, that will push the price of Nvidia GPU's up.

I was going to upgrade my system to AM5 early next year, get XMass out of the way first..... but that's no longer happening, not with 64GB of DDR5 now at £600. :cry:

I'll stick with my now 5 year old 5800X, its still capable....

All this could be devastating to this space, people are just going to stick with what they have or get out and buy a PS5 instead, until the price of those becomes unaffordable, not to mention what this might do to some retailers who trade in this segment.
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Aye it's going to be a bit of chaos for a while.

My 5700X still seems happy enough and I stay several years behind the game release curve so with my 9070 I'll hopefully be ok until AM6 (if the situation ever improves).

There's also a 4Tb SSD in my laptop that could be scavenged if I need it. Funny I though it was overkill storage at the time.

Time to buckle up and strap in to ride the wave I hope is not a tsunami.
 
It's funny, I almost grabbed a 5700X3D when they were ~£125 from China, but I figured I didn't really need the extra horsepower over my 3700X.

Having missed that though, there's no way I'm paying more than that for one now. If that means I don't upgrade for a couple of years, so be it!
 
The X3D chips are great and all, but if you have any "real" R7/R9 chip on AM4 (not the 5700 non-x), do you really need to upgrade, or is it money burning a hole in the pocket?
 
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I got good money when I sold my am4 stuff, x570, 32gb, 5800x a few months back.

Went to a 7800x3d which a similar but slightly better chip. It’s defo improved build times due to higher clocks and ipc improvements. Feel it less in games, but I did get a small boost in fps and lows.
 
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