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Calls for AMD to bring back 5800x3d

humbug said:
People are *****

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Oh... look at that, 32GB of DDR5 ram is now £400, this has given me an idea, lets push the price of 3 year old used CPU's up to £400 and make them unaffordable too..... :D

AMD, flood the market with affordable 5800X3D's, please :)
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TBF there has always been a premium on the 5800X3D even on the 2nd market. OCUK were selling the 5700X3D for £200 at one point and even then the sold prices for a 5800X3D were around £260 even though it was 2nd hand, no warranty and was hardly any quicker then a 5700X3D.
 
5800X3D used has been pricey for a while, it was much cheaper to buy a brand new 5700X3D earlier this year. With the increased cost of ddr5, this isn’t a surprise. I expect used 5700x3d are also up a fair bit too.
 
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Got my 5800x3d 2 years ago. Paid £260. pair that with my x570 tiachi, 32 gb of team group 8 pack 3600 mhz ram . along with a tiachi 9070xt. I can see my move to AM5 being delayed for quite some time...
 
I can't see them making any mroe, the lead time would be pretty long and the die packaging facilities are already slammed so they'd need quite a bit of volume to reconfigure a line and it wouldn't be cheap,
It's not like DDR4 is cheap either. 5800X 3D @ optimistic £300 + 32GB DDR4 is pretty much same cost as 7600X + 32GB DDR5 for similar performance.

Sure they could sell some chips as in system upgrade, but probably better to discount their existing inventory a little or work with retailers on bundles.
5800X at OC has increased from ~£130 to £200 in the last few weeks, the 5700X sold out most places too while you can still get a cheap 5600 and a more expensive 5800XT.

While not representative, even a 14100 I grabbed in the recent intel sale to update my NAS from Haswell is now +146% what I paid for it... yep 2.5x the original price.
 
Quite happy with my 5900X. When I bought, the 5800X3D was not out. Pretty sad to think about but we could be staring at our last PCs for a lot of us. It's possible the market never recovers to a feasible level where people buy brand new PC components again the rate things are going.
 
jaybee said:
Quite happy with my 5900X. When I bought, the 5800X3D was not out. Pretty sad to think about but we could be staring at our last PCs for a lot of us. It's possible the market never recovers to a feasible level where people buy brand new PC components again the rate things are going.
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Depends on when the AI self inflating bubble bursts and whether AI destroys us.
 
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I remember when the FX-8350 and higher were amongst the top selling CPUs and going for over £100 new in ~2019. As a former owner of an FX-8350, I can vouch that even the highest clocked 8 core FX CPU was disappointing for gaming in 2013, and absolutely awful in 2019, and would've been no real upgrade at all from any lower end AM3 CPU at that time. Still, it sold as people sought to max out their AM3 platforms.

The 5800X3D/5700X3D though is a very different beast. AM4 Ryzen's were impressive, but these CPUs went further and even help mitigate against slower RAM and scenarios that caused non-X3D Ryzen FPS to choke.

I'm now thankful WoW and TLOU helped persuade me to upgrade my 5700X to a 5700X3D. I didn't previously go for the 5800X3D due to it's high TDP and the recommendation for something like a 360mm AIO to cool it. The slightly lower clocked 5700X3D seemed to solve this on paper, which is why I bought it. In retrospect though, I reckon I could've gone for a 5800X3D if I was careful with how I used it. In games the X3Ds are quite cool, it's only when you do something like multicore Cinebench them that they go thermonuclear temperature wise.
 
Id buy one. Wouldn't use it, but I just want one. I remember trying to get my hands on one from the MM but without seeing the post within 10 mins it would be sold! Gave up in the end and bought a 9800x3d but I still want to frame a 5800x3d - absolutely legendary.
 
Would definitely be a good thing to bring back.
I picked up a new 5800x a few weeks back when they were £140 for a living room build, which had a manufacture date of week 17 2025, so AM4 manufacturing in general appears still ongoing.
AM4 motherboards i'm not so sure about, on ocuk there are 14 AM4 vs 132 AM5...I did get a new Asus TUF gaming B550 but choice is a bit limited.

No way could I justify a used price of a 5800x3d over a £140 new 5800x. & cost gulf between good AM4+ 32gb DDR4 & a meaningful upgrade with DDR5 is just too great.
 
jigger said:
Dual die 5850X3D while they are at it.
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Yeah, got a 5950x, rub a bit of 3d vcache on that and it's be a compelling proposition - But I probably wouldn't bother at the £550-600 they'd want to price it at, beter off sucking up the cost of 48-64GB DDR5 (was thinking 64-96 minimum before things went a bit mental)

Basically, cost of AM5 has gone up ridiculously, but I can't see the financial justification to re-release high end AM4
If some asian re-seller happened to pull a batch of 5700x3d out of their nether regiions for a decent price, I might be tempted
 
randal said:
I think it's a wise idea. When I upgraded from a 5800X3D -> 9800X3D I did struggle to see the benefits in game. The 5800X3D is a monster of a chip still.
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That's interesting was looking at upgrading to the 9800X3D before the memory prices went nuts, glad I didn't bother
 
If the memory situation recovers faster than they can order old chips reprinted it may be a waste of time for them.

And besides who does the DDR4 for a new round of 5800x3d, oh right same companies who do the DDR5.
 
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