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9850X3D and 9950X3D2 rumours.
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I'd not be at all surprised if the nV Super series don't come out, given that they need memory.
I feel like these CPUs are less likely to be affected, as a LOT of people who they'd appeal to will already have RAM to go with it (not me, it's definitely going to keep me from a platform upgrade).
...Inb4 production of 3d v-cache packages gets nuked
Google says thisI'd not be at all surprised if the nV Super series don't come out, given that they need memory.
I feel like these CPUs are less likely to be affected, as a LOT of people who they'd appeal to will already have RAM to go with it (not me, it's definitely going to keep me from a platform upgrade).
...Inb4 production of 3d v-cache packages gets nuked
Yes, there's a significant CPU wafer shortage, heavily driven by massive AI demand for powerful chips (GPUs, specialized AI accelerators, advanced memory like HBM) that consume enormous silicon, straining production capacity and causing price surges for both AI components and everyday electronics like PCs and smartphones, leading to supply gaps, delayed products, and high costs as manufacturers pivot wafer allocation to high-demand AI nodes, creating bottlenecks across the entire semiconductor industry.
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Did you mean the last line? - If so, I could totally see it coming into effect, but hopefully some of them were already packaged and/or beyond the point of being delayed by wafer scarcity... I'd definitely believe it would be very limited production though... I think we're all very screwed for the next couple of years, I'm already seeing it at work when I'm asking our clients to allocate a bit more RAM/storage for a VM (whether it be on-prem or AWS/Azure)
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Yeah, I'm gonna ride out my 5950x, probably for a few years. Was fully considering AM5 but waiting for the full V-Cache version or a theoretical 12/24 single CCD Zen6... luckily I am so far back in my backlog I'll have enough games for several years (Like, I mostly just watch stuff on YouTube/D+/Prime, still have games I want to play that have been out for 5+ years
- I have 2-3 complete PCs worth of spare parts that will meet my needs, which I was considering selling, but now holding off)
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I have a:
9950X3D (2) with 5090’s
9800X3D with 5080
7600X3D with 5060
13700K with 4080
11700K with 580
As ‘main’ systems so I’ll sit this one out.
Based on their behaviour, I will probably no longer buy nvidia but won’t cut my nose off to spite my face.
We shall see. I like PC building so whilst I say no more builds for at least 3 years, that’s almost certainly a lie.
9950X3D (2) with 5090’s
9800X3D with 5080
7600X3D with 5060
13700K with 4080
11700K with 580
As ‘main’ systems so I’ll sit this one out.
Based on their behaviour, I will probably no longer buy nvidia but won’t cut my nose off to spite my face.
We shall see. I like PC building so whilst I say no more builds for at least 3 years, that’s almost certainly a lie.
I'd not be at all surprised if the nV Super series don't come out, given that they need memory.
I feel like these CPUs are less likely to be affected, as a LOT of people who they'd appeal to will already have RAM to go with it (not me, it's definitely going to keep me from a platform upgrade).
...Inb4 production of 3d v-cache packages gets nuked
GDDR is much less of an issue and the Chinese are already producing Blackwell super* cards…
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Really? I'd heard nVidia had already moved to only supplying the GPU chip and not the memory packages to AIBs as they used to.
I don’t know what Nvidia supply TBH, but GDDR pricing is unaffected by the current demand for sticks of DRAM.
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Hope the 3dx2 isn't long for release after CES
AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D appears at retailers with early pricing above 9800X3D - VideoCardz.com
AMD preparing Ryzen 7 9850X3D for launch, retailer getting ready as well It looks like retailers are also preparing to introduce the Ryzen 7 9850X3D,
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So basically its a 400MHZ faster boost version of the 9800X3D that looks to be around 20% more then the RRP of the 9800X3D. Sounds like we are going back to binned Chips - and the 9950X3D is just rumors and may never get released ...
AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D appears at retailers with early pricing above 9800X3D - VideoCardz.com
AMD preparing Ryzen 7 9850X3D for launch, retailer getting ready as well It looks like retailers are also preparing to introduce the Ryzen 7 9850X3D,
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I wasn't going to bother with the 9850X3D but I think I might go for it, I fell for the KS trap on Intel too but they often used more power than the normal K.
If this ends up using similar amounts of power I think it'll be worth it. Especially if the "upgrade" costs about £150 after selling the 9800X3D
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KS was mainly worth it for extreme overclocking as they were binned at x62 and the rest of the voltage curve and clockspeeds were fairly similar to a decent 14900K.
Memory overclocking was potentially better on a KS as well, although you can definitely get better K's than KS's with silicon lottery.
Anyone wanting to just game and have a daily use PC with a KS needed to just undervolt and downclock unless they had an extreme cooling solution.
But yeah, they were kind of a trap in the sense that they are basically a K chip to the regular user.
AMD are smashing it to be fair, but I just can't justify using their platform until they sort out basic things like memory training and platform specific things that just don't work properly.
I had two AM5 systems and they drove me insane and I just wanted a working PC so switched back to Intel on the Z790 and locked voltage and clock speed down to sane levels and that system actual "just works" rather than wondering if the PC will actually boot when I press the power button.
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AMD's 16 core chips always seem like the best value in my opinion. The 6/8 core seem crazy expensive at release.