9850X3D and 9950X3D2 rumours.

[malachi]

9950X3D2 looks to be making some noise now.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-dual-cache-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-appears-in-first-benchmark-leaks-gaming-focused-cpu-features-192mb-of-l3-cache-stacked-across-both-ccds

 

[bakes0310]

9850x3d sounds interesting for gamers. Wonder who these will be aimed at, can't imagine 9800x3d owners will bother.
I have a 7800x3d and a 4k monitor so will be wasted on me.

 

[xtremedetailz]

Yeah im looking forward to the 9950X3D2

 

[hornetstinger]

Yeah im looking forward to the 9950X3D2

I'm looking forward to the 8008S40DDx2

 

[xtremedetailz]

I'm looking forward to the 8008S40DDx2

Yeah i want that one too

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

9850x3d sounds interesting for gamers. Wonder who these will be aimed at, can't imagine 9800x3d owners will bother.
I have a 7800x3d and a 4k monitor so will be wasted on me.

If you use lower DLSS/FSR scaling options, the 7800X3D -> 9800X3D upgrade can yield some reasonable results, but it's certainly not huge. It was certainly worthwhile for me. Now the 9850X3D I expect to be a few % upgrade at best.

 

[G J]

Unless I'm wrong theres nothing exciting about the 9950X3D2 as most games will still disable the second CCD and each CCD has its own seperate 3D cache and most 9800X3D's can be overclocked to a 99850X3D.

 

[mark 11:11]

Unless I'm wrong theres nothing exciting about the 9950X3D2 as most games will still disable the second CCD and each CCD has its own seperate 3D cache and most 9800X3D's can be overclocked to a 99850X3D.

i think the dual x3d layout thing is probably more aimed at productivity and media creation tasks than at gaming i might be wrong. i could imagine the extra cache would be really usefull for me for running different vsts without having to run to ram and such so much.
how much difference it owuld make in my case is actually another debate entirely though but the principle is there at least lol

 

[Rroff]

Unless I'm wrong theres nothing exciting about the 9950X3D2 as most games will still disable the second CCD and each CCD has its own seperate 3D cache and most 9800X3D's can be overclocked to a 99850X3D.

One area it might be useful, though I'm not sure how well the thread director will cope, is for people who do things like playing Eve Online with multiple game clients and/or running another game alongside Eve while waiting for stuff to happen in Eve. Or similar for other MMO type games where people "multibox" more than one game instance. Also probably useful for people who are developing games and running a preview instance along side a live editing session, etc.

 

[Hugest_UK]

I have managed to hold off on a 9800x3d but depending on price and performance maybe the 9850x3d maybe worth a punt.

 

[Minstadave]

Unless I'm wrong theres nothing exciting about the 9950X3D2 as most games will still disable the second CCD and each CCD has its own seperate 3D cache and most 9800X3D's can be overclocked to a 99850X3D.

Thats my understanding, I think it will make little to no difference to most games.

 

[Azrael1]

Wonder how much extra they would want or maybe the same RRP as the existing model
.

 

[Nickolp1974]

Thats my understanding, I think it will make little to no difference to most games.

I have no idea on this but why would a game disable the 2nd ccd if it would utilise all cores?? Doesn't battlefield use all available cores??

 

[r22snapper]

I'm holding on for the 9850x3d depending on price. I bought a load of DDR5 about 4-5 months ago so just need a board.

 

[Joxeon]

I wasn't going to bother with the 9850X3D but I think I might go for it, I fell for the KS trap on Intel too but they often used more power than the normal K.

If this ends up using similar amounts of power I think it'll be worth it. Especially if the "upgrade" costs about £150 after selling the 9800X3D

I have had my 9800X3D running at 5.6ghz for the past year, +10% in benchmarks and margin of error to a couple of % in games but only if you’re CPU limited so not really worth paying extra for imo.

 

[Grim5]

Unless I'm wrong theres nothing exciting about the 9950X3D2 as most games will still disable the second CCD and each CCD has its own seperate 3D cache and most 9800X3D's can be overclocked to a 99850X3D.

Games don't disable ccd's, windows does, so it's up to Microsoft to update window scheduler to not disable the second ccd in gaming. Windows only currently disables the second ccd for a 9950x3d because AMD told Microsoft to do so, so now AMD needs to tell Microsoft to not disable the second CCD for the 9950x3D2, seems like a simple fix to me!

So I would say you're not wrong as of the current version of windows, but if Windows 11 gets an update to its scheduler for the 9950x3d2 then yes games will use all 16 cores

 

[hornetstinger]

Games don't disable ccd's, windows does, so it's up to Microsoft to update window scheduler to not disable the second ccd in gaming. Windows only currently disables the second ccd for a 9950x3d because AMD told Microsoft to do so, so now AMD needs to tell Microsoft to not disable the second CCD for the 9950x3D2, seems like a simple fix to me!

So I would say you're not wrong as of the current version of windows, but if Windows 11 gets an update to its scheduler for the 9950x3d2 then yes games will use all 16 cores

I don't like the idea of a CPU needing OS microcode to run correctly. Pretty makes the CPU redundant on software support.

 

[Rroff]

I don't like the idea of a CPU needing OS microcode to run correctly. Pretty makes the CPU redundant on software support.

This is why I hate there is no high end desktop platform like X79/99 (short of spending £LOL on top of £LOL) - on the one hand you have AMD CPUs with the dual CCDs and on the other hand Intels with E cores and neither are 100% the same as having lots of the same cores when it comes to demanding applications beyond 8 core / 16 thread.

 

[aaronyuri]

Games don't disable ccd's, windows does, so it's up to Microsoft to update window scheduler to not disable the second ccd in gaming. Windows only currently disables the second ccd for a 9950x3d because AMD told Microsoft to do so, so now AMD needs to tell Microsoft to not disable the second CCD for the 9950x3D2, seems like a simple fix to me!

So I would say you're not wrong as of the current version of windows, but if Windows 11 gets an update to its scheduler for the 9950x3d2 then yes games will use all 16 cores

I think we need some clarity here: the second CCD is never disabled using the driver-based solution. The scheduler ignores the threads available on that CCD for gaming loads - it also requires Xbox game bar and some AMD drivers to function correctly. It's very much a software solution shouldered by Microsoft and AMD. It optimises gaming workloads by running the game's threads across the CCD with the extra cache.

It is possible to truly disable the second CCD (or even the first) within the BIOS. This will cause Windows to see a dual CCD CPU as a single CCD CPU. Then no software is required to optimise performance.

It will be interesting to see what the performance optimisations are, as not every game likes lots of cores whether those cores have the extra cache or not. I highly suspect the driver control to remain in place with per game optimisations remaining the norm. There just aren't enough games on the market that sing along with 16C/32T to not be selective about it, IMO.

 

[Nickolp1974]

copied from ocn


Looks like Dell is launching 9850X3D systems in two months...would expect retail availability shortly after.

https://videocardz.com/newz/dell-co...are-area-51-pc-set-to-launch-in-february-2026

If the 9950X3D2 follows the same pattern as the 9800X3D and 9950X3D launch, it should show up almost a full quarter later, perhaps May or June. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it were earlier, to allow for more of a gap between it's launch and Zen 6. They should also have plenty of GR-X CCDs by now.