Calls for AMD to bring back 5800x3d

Capitano · 24 Dec 2025 at 14:23

according to Amazon the current top seller for CPU's in the UK is the 5800x!

dazzlaa · 27 Dec 2025 at 14:21

I feel this would be a fairly shortsighted move. Investing in a ddr4 system because of inflated ddr5 prices just feels a bit, wrong. Surely better to exercise some patience and ride the storm. DDR4 had pretty much gone up at the same rate anyway so hardly a massive saving.

GuruJockStrap · 27 Dec 2025 at 15:08

dazzlaa said:
I feel this would be a fairly shortsighted move. Investing in a ddr4 system because of inflated ddr5 prices just feels a bit, wrong. Surely better to exercise some patience and ride the storm. DDR4 had pretty much gone up at the same rate anyway so hardly a massive saving.

I think it’s more for those people still running a Ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or low end 5xxx.

For them, dropping a 5800X3D type CPU would be massive upgrade and see you well over the next couple of years.

dazzlaa · 27 Dec 2025 at 15:33

GuruJockStrap said:
I think it’s more for those people still running a Ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or low end 5xxx.

For them, dropping a 5800X3D type CPU would be massive upgrade and see you well over the next couple of years.

Yeah that’s a fair point I guess! Hadn’t thought of it like that.

DrBombcrater · 28 Dec 2025 at 00:49

Hotwired said:
If the memory situation recovers faster than they can order old chips reprinted it may be a waste of time for them.

And besides who does the DDR4 for a new round of 5800x3d, oh right same companies who do the DDR5.

This is the critical flaw in any idea of a resurrected 5800X3D. Nobody's making DDR4 any more, surging demand means prices are going to keep on rising until they equal or exceed DDR5.

Putting the 5800X3D back in to production is going to take at least six months, even if AMD pushed the button right now. By that time DDR4 will be significantly more expensive than it is now, if the AI bubble pops it could well be costlier than DDR5.

Back in November I bought a load of used DDR4 to upgrade my AM4 machines because I fully expect that to be prohibitively expensive next year.

GuruJockStrap · 28 Dec 2025 at 01:44

But I don’t think anybody looking to build a new system today is going to to that on an AM4 platform.

There will be many people running a Ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or low end 5xxx based system that already have 16 or 32 GB of DDR4 RAM.

They might have been looking to jump to AM5 around now but the massive increase in RAM prices is making that a very expensive choice. A CPU like the 5800X3D could be dropped into those existing systems, no RAM purchase necessary but they’ll benefit from additional cores, much better IPC and the performance uplift from the 96MB 3D cache.

If that population of PC owners postpone their upgrades for another 2 years, AMD might as well get some income from 5800 and 5700X3D purchases rather than nothing at all in my opinion. So this wouldn’t be a terrible idea.

Haggisman · 28 Dec 2025 at 10:05

Vexr said:
I'm now thankful WoW and TLOU helped persuade me to upgrade my 5700X to a 5700X3D. I didn't previously go for the 5800X3D due to it's high TDP and the recommendation for something like a 360mm AIO to cool it. The slightly lower clocked 5700X3D seemed to solve this on paper, which is why I bought it. In retrospect though, I reckon I could've gone for a 5800X3D if I was careful with how I used it. In games the X3Ds are quite cool, it's only when you do something like multicore Cinebench them that they go thermonuclear temperature wise.

It's really not that bad in games, mine is running on a relatively budget single 120mm air cooler (Alpenfohn Matterhorn) and I've never had an issue with temps

GuruJockStrap · 28 Dec 2025 at 12:03

Nope. The only time I’ve seen my 5800X3D hit concerning temps is when I wanted to see worst case scenario and that was by running Prime 95 small FFT test. Everything else was fine.

FredFlint · 28 Dec 2025 at 12:42

7800x3d/9800x3d with an IO die with DDR4 support would be better.

jigger · 28 Dec 2025 at 13:16

FredFlint said:
7800x3d/9800x3d with an IO die with DDR4 support would be better.

Might as well be DDR3 at this point.

FredFlint · 28 Dec 2025 at 13:23

jigger said:
Might as well be DDR3 at this point.

Why? AMD has IO dies with DDR4 support, do they have them for DDR3. Anyway, think AsRock is doing a board that supports DDR4 and DDR5 which would do the same thing.

Disco_P · 28 Dec 2025 at 13:37

Surely the people who want and/or would benefit from this are on AM4 with DDR4 already?

And given that there was ample supply of £130 5700x3d chips from the far east, I reckon that is what they are "calling for" as it's perfect.

But it's not going to happen cause AMD would make more selling AM5.

Computer is expensive nowadays.

jigger · 28 Dec 2025 at 14:18

FredFlint said:
Why? AMD has IO dies with DDR4 support, do they have them for DDR3. Anyway, think AsRock is doing a board that supports DDR4 and DDR5 which would do the same thing.

Yes, pretty much any type of DRAM behind the IO die is possible, even GDDR as per the consoles. The point is to bring down memory cost, but DDR4 prices are as high or even higher than DDR5 just now.

TBH I can’t see it how AMD committing the time and resources to bring AM4 back into production would make sense. I don’t think this will happen as it looks as if the semiconductor industry is heading towards a downturn

FredFlint · 28 Dec 2025 at 14:24

I known what you are saying, think people just have DDR4 kits and don't want to buy new overpriced kits. I was waiting for the 128GB DDR5 kits to settle but looks like its not going to happen, ever. I have 2 DDR4 kits, 16GB(2*8) and a 64GB(4*16) kit.

jigger · 28 Dec 2025 at 14:30

Disco_P said:
Surely the people who want and/or would benefit from this are on AM4 with DDR4 already?

And given that there was ample supply of £130 5700x3d chips from the far east, I reckon that is what they are "calling for" as it's perfect.

But it's not going to happen cause AMD would make more selling AM5.

Computer is expensive nowadays.

Computer was actually very reasonably priced until recently. Well, as long as you excluded nvidia graphics.

7800X3D the bargain of the century for sub £350. Drop one in £60 motherboard with a £15 HSF. The 5950X 16c32t power house at sub £275. 5900, 7900X and 9900X all available for an absolute steal…

jigger · 28 Dec 2025 at 14:35

FredFlint said:
I known what you are saying, think people just have DDR4 kits and don't want to buy new overpriced kits. I was waiting for the 128GB DDR5 kits to settle but looks like its not going to happen, ever. I have 2 DDR4 kits, 16GB(2*8) and a 64GB(4*16) kit.

People were happily paying £30-40 for a RGB fan and fitting 12 of them to cool their latest 600 watt graphics monstrosity, while at the same time moaning about paying £150 for memory or £400 for a CPU…

Joxeon · 28 Dec 2025 at 14:48

GuruJockStrap said:
But I don’t think anybody looking to build a new system today is going to to that on an AM4 platform.

There will be many people running a Ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or low end 5xxx based system that already have 16 or 32 GB of DDR4 RAM.

They might have been looking to jump to AM5 around now but the massive increase in RAM prices is making that a very expensive choice. A CPU like the 5800X3D could be dropped into those existing systems, no RAM purchase necessary but they’ll benefit from additional cores, much better IPC and the performance uplift from the 96MB 3D cache.

If that population of PC owners postpone their upgrades for another 2 years, AMD might as well get some income from 5800 and 5700X3D purchases rather than nothing at all in my opinion. So this wouldn’t be a terrible idea.

This is basically my brother who currently has a 3700X, I did tell him at the time to buy an imported 5700X3D 18 months ago at the time I picked one up when were available for around £120.

Then back in early October he said he was thinking of building a new PC, I told him to act fast as ram prices were going up but he left it and now with ram kits at £350+ he’s now on about upgrading his AM4 CPU but those 5000X3D are now a rip off at around £300+ so the only option is one of those 5800X/5700X which is probably why they are the top selling CPUs on the rainforest.

FredFlint · 28 Dec 2025 at 16:12

jigger said:
People were happily paying £30-40 for a RGB fan and fitting 12 of them to cool their latest 600 watt graphics monstrosity, while at the same time moaning about paying £150 for memory or £400 for a CPU…

Some people are crazy, most don't or can't do that.

Joxeon · 29 Dec 2025 at 02:32

Disco_P said:
And given that there was ample supply of £130 5700x3d chips from the far east, I reckon that is what they are "calling for" as it's perfect.

5700X3D used is going for nearly £300 now, makes more sense for an AM4 user to get a 12600k/14600k and a cheap LGA1851 DDR4 board.

Bounce · 29 Dec 2025 at 07:40

Disco_P said:
Surely the people who want and/or would benefit from this are on AM4 with DDR4 already?

And given that there was ample supply of £130 5700x3d chips from the far east, I reckon that is what they are "calling for" as it's perfect.

But it's not going to happen cause AMD would make more selling AM5.

Computer is expensive nowadays.

Where have you been buying 5700x3ds at £130 as they have never been that low.