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Calls for AMD to bring back 5800x3d

if you’re going to pay the inflated price on a 5700x3d you may as-well use the same inflated amount on ram instead of messing around if you’re that desperate.
 
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How so?

Say you’re rocking a Ryzen 2600 or 3600 system with 32GB RAM already and a capable GPU for 1080/1440p gaming.

You were planning on upgrading to an AM5 system this year. What’s that now for 32GB DDR5 RAM, £300? Add a motherboard and a CPU and you can see why dropping a 5700 or 5800 X3D CPU even at an inflated price isn’t a bad idea. Even more so that performance uplift you’ll get will be huge, especially for gaming.

I think this being an enthusiasts forum and with consumers with probably more disposable income tends to skew the thought process in discussions like this.
 
If you were planning on the am5 upgrade I’ve no idea why you’re now bringing the other parts cost into it. By that logic you can now sell your ddr4 at a now inflated amount plus the rest of your kit to offset against the am5 system.

The price difference between the inflated used 5series X3d and ram if you actually looks around and wait are not much different. 5700x3d and 5800x3d are now going for used upto £300 and near £400 respectively. I’ve seen 64gb ram (2x32gb) multiple times now pop up briefly between for £155-£170 nothing special spec wise. 32gb similar priced with better timings. Some available, some with 1-3 month delivery dates.

I’m on a similar system to your example just a 3900x and at 4K with a 3070ti. I just decided to wait for AM6. If I hadn’t the cost difference to me on ram before the madness to now would have been no more than £100 for admittedly poorer spec ram but a hell of a lot better than a 5700x3d or 5800x3d.

Though if you only shop on here pay £300 of course.
 
You could also argue that a 5700X3D/5800X3D will likely at least hold its currently inflated value for a good few years to come, perhaps off setting future depreciation of the DDR4 and AM4 motherboard (if any).

I'd hate to be desperate for an upgrade right now, though I have been in that position before with my AM3 FX-8350 system driving me mad and forcing me to do a full platform upgrade in the overpriced DDR4 RAM market of late 2018/early 2019.
 
Vexr said:
You could also argue that a 5700X3D/5800X3D will likely at least hold its currently inflated value for a good few years to come, perhaps off setting future depreciation of the DDR4 and AM4 motherboard (if any).

I'd hate to be desperate for an upgrade right now, though I have been in that position before with my AM3 FX-8350 system driving me mad and forcing me to do a full platform upgrade in the overpriced DDR4 RAM market of late 2018/early 2019.
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If anything AM4 chips are appreciating in value, I expect chips like the 5700X3D/5800X3D will cost more used than a 9800X3D does by the time zen6 arrives.

Even the non X3D AM4 stuff is going up, I sold a 5800X 18 months ago for £115 and now the cheapest are used are around £145
 
Joxeon said:
If anything AM4 chips are appreciating in value, I expect chips like the 5700X3D/5800X3D will cost more used than a 9800X3D does by the time zen6 arrives.

Even the non X3D AM4 stuff is going up, I sold a 5800X 18 months ago for £115 and now the cheapest are used are around £145
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That’s already the case if you get the 9800x3d outside of the UK.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
AM4 rides again!

www.tomshardware.com

AMD Ryzen chief teases return of older Zen 3 chips to fight soaring RAM prices — 'That's something we're actively working on right now'

Bring out your salt shaker for this one, but it's one tasty morsel.
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makes sense, as most people are not going to upgrade their AM4 platform to AM5, AMD will loose out on sales so might as well release CPU that many will likely buy or upgrade to. I am not sure what they would do? releasing 5800x3d on a new 4nm node with higher frequency? Like 5850x3d that will sell well, but moving old design to new node can be complicated and may require some redesign they did this with zen to zen+ from 14nm to 12nn basically did an optical shrink and they were 10% faster.
 
When I bought my 5090 the next step was to move to AM5, but looks like I will be holding on to my 5800x3d until AM6 at this rate.
 
A new CPU on the AM4 socket would be appealing. If they could get 7800x3d performance out of the old socket I think it would sell like hotcakes given the RAM prices.
 
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makes sense, as most people are not going to upgrade their AM4 platform to AM5, AMD will loose out on sales so might as well release CPU that many will likely buy or upgrade to. I am not sure what they would do? releasing 5800x3d on a new 4nm node with higher frequency? Like 5850x3d that will sell well, but moving old design to new node can be complicated and may require some redesign they did this with zen to zen+ from 14nm to 12nn basically did an optical shrink and they were 10% faster.
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Cannot see a redesign just making more of the original design on the same node.
 
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