5820k + Vega 56 upgrade ideas/options

Doing the GPU first would be interesting and help give you an idea which games need the CPU grunt more than the others.

If you're wanting to save some dosh, you could just postpone the troublesome games till a later date, though I know that would be disappointing with a new shiny to play with.

If you're planning to upgrade the monitor (higher res) then I'd go with a 9070 or 5070, at least, especially for 4K.

Be wary of large core count CPUs. I don't know much about your socket, but large core counts tend to boost lower and when you have a dated CPU you'll need all the clock speed you can get. More than 6 cores is in diminishing returns territory for the majority of games.
Res will probably be staying at 2560x1080 for the foreseeable future, albeit may switch to my partners 144hz which is 1080 or 1440 can’t remember which need to check,
 
Do you think there would be much bottleneck with the 9070XT with the 5820k…? Or even if I got a cheap 5960X (£45 on eBay?) just for now until I could free up some more finances…? I mean I can probably swing the AM4/5 bundle and the 9060, but longer term I’d probably want the 9070 most short term…?

I think your system may be suffering from RAM bandwidth, unless it's using some cheap Chinese board, X99 is a quad channel memory platform so your only getting half the bandwidth. Swapping the 2 x 16 for 4 x 8 would likely give you more performance.

Personally I think the 5820k will be significantly bottleneck for a 9070XT even with a decent overclock and quad channel memory it's around Ryzen 1800X performance.
If you plan on upgrading the whole system soon and want to lock in a card, then sure.

If you want to go cheap, a B550 motherboard and Ryzen R5 5600 for £200 slot in your memory and a GPU
 
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Currently thinking:
5600X
AM4 motherboard
9700XT

Using the above video, looks like it matches the rest above it and removes the bottlenecking issue, while being able to be bought for £100 ish on E*** (don’t know if I’m allowed to say it on here)….
 
Res will probably be staying at 2560x1080 for the foreseeable future, albeit may switch to my partners 144hz which is 1080 or 1440 can’t remember which need to check,

A 9060XT + the AM5 build using your brothers 32gb* set + an entry level CPU (let alone a 7500X3D) will massively beat out a 9070XT on your current PC, or a 5600 AM4 build.

A 9070XT on a 5600/AM4 will save you a lot and be a great setup.

*I'm assuming your brother is offering the DDR5 at cost or for free.
 
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A 9060XT + the AM5 build using your brothers 32gb* set + an entry level CPU (let alone a 7500X3D) will massively beat out a 9070XT on your current PC, or a 5600 AM4 build.

A 9070XT on a 5600/AM4 will save you a lot and be a great setup.

*I'm assuming your brother is offering the DDR5 at cost or for free.
Yeh at cost, £150 for the 32gb set, any recommendations on motherboards for AM4/5? The B850 or X870? What’s the main difference? (Not upto date on motherboards at all)
 
Yeh at cost, £150 for the 32gb set, any recommendations on motherboards for AM4/5? The B850 or X870? What’s the main difference? (Not upto date on motherboards at all)

The Sapphire Nitro I listed prior I've used personally in two builds, it also reviews very well. You don't need to worry about B850 vs 870, by and large it's just USB related rather than anything important and if you don't care now you wont in general.

With AM4 pretty much any B550 will be fine.
 

Looks grand, but you need to gauge the importance yourself.

An AM4 setup using your existing RAM and a 5600/9060XT combo is still going to be an order of magnitude faster than what you're currently using.

As mentioned, buy the 9060XT first and see how you feel, the prices for anything other than memory related products are liable to stagnate so you'll not end up spending more long term with a GPU purchase.

See here:

That's on an Intel 13700K, so in gaming roughly AMD vanilla 7600 performance, in some games the X3D segment makes a massive difference ergo the 7500X3D recommendation.
 
Very old, could be a very good idea, tbh the full pc could do with being wiped and reset fully… Years of stuff allover the place, clear of malware but always suspected there was something hiding in the depths.

The PSU is a 850W 80 plus gold seasonic I believe or a Corsair RM850, definitely 80 plus gold 850w
Well then definitely reinstall the OS. It's almost certainly worth it.

I'd still do a hardware upgrade at the same time though as your current system is very old.
 
Are you running the 5820k at stock? Most of them will run at 4.2GHz no problem….it wasn’t that long ago I got rid of mine, still fine in a lot of stuff, with a new GPU and a 3.3 -> 4.2 OC could have life left.
 
I would do the full upgrade especially as he can have 32Gb of DDR5 for £150 which is a steal at todays ridiculous prices. God knows when or even if the prices will ever come back down to where they should be so he may as well jump on the chance to get on a up to date platform now. I feel that just upgrading the gpu is a bad idea as it is going to be crippled by such a old cpu.
 
I would do the full upgrade especially as he can have 32Gb of DDR5 for £150 which is a steal at todays ridiculous prices. God knows when or even if the prices will ever come back down to where they should be so he may as well jump on the chance to get on a up to date platform now. I feel that just upgrading the gpu is a bad idea as it is going to be crippled by such a old cpu.
running at 4.6 its going to be fine. youd be surprised how well they do still. even if you doing the full upgrade what harm can it do to get a gpu first to see if its decent eough performance to make you happy ? if it isnt just order the rest.
 
running at 4.6 its going to be fine. youd be surprised how well they do still. even if you doing the full upgrade what harm can it do to get a gpu first to see if its decent eough performance to make you happy ? if it isnt just order the rest.

The IPC uplift alone between a 5820K and a AMD Ryzen 5600 is massive, and the 5600 is already seeing bottlenecks in some situations with GPU's around or on par with the 9070XT.

It's not going to be fine with an OC, you're spending money on a product that can only reach a small portion of its potential. The substantially faster for gaming 9900K is falling behind, and that was the CPU gaming king from 2018 that was a 8c16t offering.

The 5820K is literally a 12 year old offering from Intel on Haswell-E, it's ancient.
 
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The IPC uplift alone between a 5820K and a AMD Ryzen 5600 is massive, and the 5600 is already seeing bottlenecks in some situations with GPU's around or on par with the 9070XT.

It's not going to be fine with an OC, you're spending money on a product that can only reach a small portion of its potential. The substantially faster for gaming 9900K is falling behind, and that was the CPU gaming king from 2018 that was a 8c16t offering.

The 5820K is literally a 12 year old offering from Intel on Haswell-E, it's ancient.
you can literally see videos of people playing modern games fine with modern gpus on youtube. some x99 cpus smash 5600x to bits lol. i know i watch em
 
you can literally see videos of people playing modern games fine with modern gpus on youtube. some x99 cpus smash 5600x to bits lol. i know i watch em

Link a couple that aren't Russian channels with weirdly disjointed explanations of what is happening, which are relative to Arc Raiders.
 
Link a couple that aren't Russian channels with weirdly disjointed explanations of what is happening, which are relative to Arc Raiders.
honestly not going on youtube trolling through videos to pinpoint a decent performance from x99 platform. they do well still thats all that matters.
 
The IPC uplift alone between a 5820K and a AMD Ryzen 5600 is massive, and the 5600 is already seeing bottlenecks in some situations with GPU's around or on par with the 9070XT.

It's not going to be fine with an OC, you're spending money on a product that can only reach a small portion of its potential. The substantially faster for gaming 9900K is falling behind, and that was the CPU gaming king from 2018 that was a 8c16t offering.

The 5820K is literally a 12 year old offering from Intel on Haswell-E, it's ancient.
Can get a 7800x3D for 225, Mobo for 120 ish, DDR5 for 150, RTX 3070 for 195

Can get a 5600X for 100, mobo for <100, ram I have and a 3080/6800XT for 260 ish

Think its between those 2 options, which do you think is best? Im thinking option 2
 
Can get a 7800x3D for 225, Mobo for 120 ish, DDR5 for 150, RTX 3070 for 195

Can get a 5600X for 100, mobo for <100, ram I have and a 3080/6800XT for 260 ish

Think its between those 2 options, which do you think is best? Im thinking option 2

If it were me I'd go for the first, DDR5 costs a fortune at the moment and I am a hardware enthusiast.

You need to decide for yourself what holds the most value, the only thing I would say is that I'd not personally spend £200 on a 3070. I'd try to get something a little more modern with more VRAM, I wouldn't be surprised if you could pick up a 4070 for not much more at this point.
 
If you don't take the DDR5 for £150, it could be a very long time (if at all) that it is ever available for that price again.

The 7800X3D system would have much better future potential than AM4 will.

The 5600X system is really just a "make-do" PC for me, not something that you'll keep for 10+ years like the existing one.
 
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