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I'm looking at a full rebuild cpu (9800x3d may as well go for this over the 7800x3d) mobo, psu & 32gb ram plus gpu. I dont need specific AI apps as I am more of a casual gamer these days, its just my plan to upgrade when I need to seems to have been side swiped so its now or hold until 2028 maybe. So any GPU or other advice would be appreciated
If you can afford the inflated price of DDR5, then go for it. I am on the pessimistic side on this as there are so many big players (Google, Oracle and even the US/PRC government are participated in the AI arms race), even OpenAI go bust due to running out of funds, others will continue the game and my guess is things aren't improving significantly before 2030, if you planned to upgrade by 2028, the chance is waiting isn't doing you much favour, to me the decision is probably either wait for 5+ years, or upgrade now, as for GPU, 5070Ti isn't providing good value for the current price and is not outperforming 9070XT outside the DLSS/RT perks, if you don't need top end performance (which u should go for 5080/5090 where AMD do not have equivalents) perhaps you should saving money opting for 9070XT over the inflated 5070Ti today, just my 2 pennies....I'm looking at a full rebuild cpu (9800x3d may as well go for this over the 7800x3d) mobo, psu & 32gb ram plus gpu. I dont need specific AI apps as I am more of a casual gamer these days, its just my plan to upgrade when I need to seems to have been side swiped so its now or hold until 2028 maybe. So any GPU or other advice would be appreciated
All makes sense, I think any Intel cpu would need a new mobo (mine has an LGA1151 apparently) so the only saving there would be ram as I see it. Then we are back at GPU's, I have been back & forth between the 5070 (some say not enough vram) 5070 ti (too expensive) & the 9070XT I was looking at the saphire pulse here but had the nagging doubt about dlss which again may just be fomo as I havent been following things since I built this rig in 2019. I also run at 1440p btw
The upscaling is one of, if not the biggest change of the gaming GPU technology in last couple of years (forget about the fake frames generation, and the ray tracing where basic ones are crap, while overdrive is for next-next-next gen hardwares....), DLSS (especially with the transformer model) is, undeniably better than the FSR offering by AMD, there is really no debate about it, but to me paying £200 extra as "DLSS tax" is too much, however it is just my take, the choice is yours.... and both 9070XT and 5070Ti should run games at 1440P quite well for years to come, save for a few notorious titles such as borderlands 4 (which you get ~40FPS with badass settings at 4K even with 5090)...
If you want big brand, Gigabyte is the only one (stay away from MSI Ventus or other budget series for this generation, too much corners are cut to lower the price),
Just trying to justify best build for lowest price that I dont have to think about it again for another 6yrs ideally!If I am the one to choose, I will pick the Asus Prime 9070XT though,Yep ive seen some worrying things about the gigabyte & the thermal gel they used on their original cards. Not sure the Zotac is worth £190 more than the saphire 9070xt either so back to that
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You know, so do I. In fact the 9070XT (Asus Prime) was still available outside OcUK for just £575 last week, which was probably one of the best deal since January, but that gentleman seems to want DLSS badly, and as a 5070Ti owner, I would also pick a 9070XT today, £200 "DLSS tax" is too much to be justified IMHO....
FSR 4 is pretty good you know. I find it funny in all the DF videos that every new DLSS has finally achieved perfection...until a new one comes out, and then they talk about all the flaws. Nvidia are given praise for releasing 4.5 on 2 and 3 series cards but the FPS cost is just HUGE! If you're buying a 5070ti that won't matter, but my point is some of the 'press' aren't shooting completely straight
What makes FSR4 special compare to FSR3 and before, was the utilization of AI accelerators (similar to Tensor Cores used in Nvidia RTX GPUs) which allows a much higher capability (speed) for those AI workload. If I remembered correctly, there are folks who managed to enable FSR4 on RX 7000 series cards through hacks, but the speed was so abysmal to be practical, so it is not pure greed for AMD to place it under the paywall of the RX 9000 series GPUs. The brutal truth is, the pre-9000 series cards, is like the Pascal GTX 10 series (and before) which do not the the specialised hardware for those AI workload (upscaling/frame generation), there isn't much could be done since it is limitation by hardware design. What really shameful however, is AMD did not continue provide gaming support for 6000 series GPU despite the U-turn of announcing its "EOL" status, which they could, and should provide support for longer.
