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I don't even think we are talking about the same thing, I have never even mentioned anything about the fire services or have you until 2 posts ago.... please elaborate.

oh my...... REALITY is that type of investigation that happens with every incident investigated by the HSE. It starts from the cause and works its way up to the highest factor

If you really want me to stroke your ego then YES it is. That's the process which happens with every incident in construction and 99% of the time its people not following standards/regs.

I'm saying you don't understand what regulations are. Acts are law and they are very purposefully written in a loose way. Regulations are guide lines on how to try and meet the Acts requirements. Standards are passed by parliament formed based on the scientific understanding at the time...

Again if your information if from the news/internet take it with a grain of salt. Dont even believe me but please if you feel strongly about something go educate yourself and make your own informed decision. He probably finds it extraordinary that a document called CDM 2015 or building regs...

What are you on about?? CDM holds every body (person or corporation) involved responsible and allows punishment for all. Again go learn about it, stop twisting things you don't understand.

Anything you build has the risk to kill structural or cosmetic, that's not what has happened here as I keep telling you. You can keep trying to forward you own agenda by either purposefully twisting what people are saying or unknowingly misunderstanding what is being said. As I said go educate...

I'm not a teacher, what I'm saying is go read the CDM regs and look at previous cases and see exactly what happens to those individuals/groups. The fact you have said that means you haven't.

But that isn't what happened in this case... You don't seem to understand what construction is I'm afraid. Everything we build has hazards, every structure and every material. When we design/build things we eliminated or reduced the risk to an acceptable standard (BS/EN) which has been proven...

Yes you asked if I wanted some flammable cladding. I want to know what the flammability rating is so I can make an informed choice of wither it isn't acceptable. Almost all cladding is flammable...

I take it you don't know CDM regs on client/corporations.

You do know many flammable materials are used in construction? What was the flammability rating on the cladding used in this case, you seem to know so much?

You should probably read up on the standards and inform yourself. What will happen is everyone from the Client(and his company) to the people installing the cladding will be investigated and prison sentences/fines handed out to those found to be in breach of their duties.

No idea I'm not a energy saving expert nor would I like to make a comment outwith what I know. Cladding is a effective way as has been shown with the thousands of buildings that have it, if installed correctly with the right safety measures in place. Without knowing the design of the built I...

Well in America kinder eggs are banned for being unsafe.... whats your point? I'm not debating that the cladding panels used were poor, but that the system of installation was also a huge factor

Why its clear the cladding in this case is the cause for this fire, no doubt. While the type of cladding used was a huge factor on the fast spread, fire breaks would have slowed it down(thats there purpose if they cant stop the blaze). The speed that it went up showed that there were either none...

You should probably read the BS/EN standards on cladding as there are systems in place that dont allow the left side/2nd picture "chimney" scenario. Trusting peoples word on the internet isn't the best on a system you have no clue on.

The fact that nearly every multi-story housing contractors that use cladding are going around photographing all their cladding to show that there is the necessary fire breaks in place and building a portfolio shows that the cladding on this build was never installed to the regs. Its not about...

Looking to move away from a desktop gaming setup to a laptop due to not really having time to sit at a desktop. Would rather boot up a laptop where ever I am and get a little gaming back on the go from time to time. Mostly be used for browsing, watching movies/streams/youtube and some gaming...

If everyone was equal I could see your point but no matter how hard some people try average results is all they are going to get during a school term. Usually these kids require further time to reach the level of some others by going through college first then uni. The kid putting in the same...