F1 - bad....no, *catastrophic* news from America

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Kyle "Petulant Twit" Busch wants to test an F1 car.

If he was to ever move to F1, that actually would be me finished with the sport. The really awful thing is that I suspect he has the talent to win in F1. Maybe not with Toyota unless some serious improvements are made there, but put him in a top car and he would get the job done. But....he's just such an irritating, mardy little arse with all the 'charm' that his elder brother had when he was younger. Difference being - Kurt grew out of it. I can't see Kyle doing the same.

It's just so frustrating. I want to like Kyle Busch, as he's a great driver. But as a person.....ugh. This is the same guy who having crashed into Dale Earnhardt Jr at a race last season (the crash being Busch's fault) left the race track while the team were still working on his car. They fixed it up enough to complete the race, and found that their star driver had simply buggered off. Junior's car couldn't be fixed, so one of Busch's mechanics invited him to complete the race in the car instead. This explains why Junior now drives for the team that got rid of Busch at the end of last season ;)

Kyle managed to crash into his brother during the All-Star race at Charlotte this time last year. The two didn't even really make up until Christmas, and Kyle is still insisting that it wasn't his fault that the overly aggressive move he made on a slower car didn't come off quite the way he maybe thought it would. He'd have gotten by Kurt with no trouble if he'd just used one of his two braincells....*sigh*
 
Man with ability to drive round in circles could win a championship? Some how with the drivers in F1 at the moment I don't think that's ever going to happen.
 
i dont get nascar..im not sure how driving round in circles requires any 'racing' skill..more to the point how is gonna go from going round circles to actually going round proper corners...doubt hed make it past turn 1 on any track (unless its a left hand turn)
 
Well if he cant drive an F1 car in a test then he wont get a drive for the yr will he.
 
But Busch added that he thought the racing in F1 might be a little tame compared to NASCAR's side-by-side action.

"It seems as though there racing isn't all that great — they kind of get stuck in line and the aero takes over everything," he said.
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He seems to exhibit great understanding of F1 :rolleyes:

If he doesnt think it'll be that fun then why does he want to do it?
 
Alex_6n2 said:
Man with ability to drive round in circles could win a championship?
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Ah yes, that tired old one. Because I couldn't have predicted that response, could I? :)

NASCAR does go to tracks where the drivers turn right as well, funnily enough. But of course, you'd know that since you know with utter certainty that all they do is drive around in circles :p And if oval racing in NASCAR is so easy, how come a Formula 1 champion completely failed at it? I seem to recall a certain Mr Villeneuve making an attempt to go NASCAR racing this season....and he isn't any more.

Juan Montoya had to go NASCAR racing to find a halfway decent way to spend his time. And while he's enjoying it a lot, the only places he's won so far are Mexico City (a road course) and Sears Point (a road course). You'd think a driver that raced in The Almighty Formula One Grand Prix World Championship would be able to handle something as easy as driving in a circle, wouldn't you?

Here's a radical thought. Maybe, just maybe, oval racing in a 3400lb ~800hp stock car is pretty ******* difficult. Maybe, just maybe, it produces some very good drivers. Jeff Gordon tested a Williams a few years ago in a demonstration event, and was pretty close to front running pace. Had he been given a full test, he might well have been even quicker.

Alex_6n2 said:
Some how with the drivers in F1 at the moment I don't think that's ever going to happen.
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Kimi Raikkonen - inconsistent. Some days he's untouchable. Others, he just doesn't look like he's on it.
Felipe Massa - also inconsistent. Can win several races in a row, then bin the car into the scenery for the next few.
The Messiah™ - apparently hasn't quite mastered the art of looking after his tyres yet....
Fernando Alonso - not got a prayer in that current Renault unless something happens to hobble the front-runners.
Heikki Kovaleinen - unknown quantity really. We'll never know what he could have done last weekend with the way it all unfolded. I have no doubt he can win a race or two this season. But challenge for the title? He's a way off that yet.

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Squark said:
He seems to exhibit great understanding of F1 :rolleyes:

If he doesnt think it'll be that fun then why does he want to do it?
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I thought he was actually quite close to the mark with that. Next year the regulations should take car of some of that problem though.

As for why he wants to do it - it might have something to do with the fact that he's a racing driver, and likes the idea of Grand Prix racing even if it's current execution leaves something to be desired....
 
I agree that Nascar is a lot more difficult than it looks and quite a few people seem to underestimate the level of skill required to control them.
 
JRS said:
Here's a radical thought. Maybe, just maybe, oval racing in a 3400lb ~800hp stock car is pretty ******* difficult.
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Even if piloting evil handling, overweight barges around an oval at high speed is difficult you have already stated the skills required are not the same as driving lightweight open wheeled cars around technical circuits. So what makes you think this Busch guy (whoever he is) will be any good at it?
 
Nothing annoys me more than mis informed people making rash statements with not one single milligram of truth in it.
Anybody who thinks NASCAR is easier than F1 is Deluded, Anybody that thinks F1 is proper racing is also Deluded.
This comes from an Englishman who Respects Saloon car racers but thinks F1 racers are a bunch of predictable, machinery dictated ******.
I'd like to see any F1 driver mid pack in a 30 car race on an Oval doing 200 mph with a car inches away on Every single side of him for 200 laps.
The cars move about, they are set up off camber & if & when your tyres go you are into a Concrete wall.
Them F1 ponces cry when they get sand in there cockpit.

Having said all that God knows whether the dude would be any good at Open wheelers as the style of driving is completly different, Accuracy is the key to open wheelers where as car control with varying conditions is the key to Nascar.
 
NASCARs are dinosaurs. Carburated pushrod engines and a 4 speed gearbox anyone? Apart from the new decals for the latest repmobile grille on the silhouette body they've probably not changed much in 20 years.

Must have been a bit of a shock for Toyota - they'd have to go back through the company archives to check out engine design in the 1950s.

Serves the purpose of levelling the playing field and creating close racing however.
 
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