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Hi there!!

I've long wanted to build my own PC and now i have job after graduating to afford to do it and I know you must get a fair few of these threads from newbs so apologies . I've already asked some gaming friends for their opinion and have narrowed down a pretty nice build (I hope!). However there was debate over if I should go for Socket 1155 or 1366. Its mainly going be used for MMO gaming(STO/the upcoming TOR) but if i had a decent computer I'd probs other games.

Anyway i've come up with this for 1366 build, someone convinved me based on their experiences of the mobo, but I been reading and would i be correct in assuming I would get more life out of 1155 Mobo before needing to upgrade that as well as the CPU?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7 960 3.20Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £215.99
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II TOP 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with FREE Batman: Arkham City PC game** £179.99
1 x Asus X58 Sabertooth TUF Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Retail (GFC-00025) £124.99
1 x Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two (V3) Ultimate Gaming Case (with USB3.0 Support) - Black £109.99
1 x Antec TruePower New Modular 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £85.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Triple Channel Kit (BL3KIT51264BA160A) £67.99
1 x OCZ Vertex 2 50GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-2VTX50G) ** NEW LOWER PRICE ** £64.99
1 x Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BluRay ROM DVDRW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) £59.99
1 x Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler (Socket 775/1155/1156/1366) £47.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (WD10EARX) £44.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps High-Gain Wireless-N USB Adapter (TL-WN822N) £15.02
Total : £1,174.42 (includes shipping : £13.75).




Thanks for any assistance!
 
I'm sure a Sandy Bridge build will be along shortly.
You say that like a bad thing? Really i am not tied down but wanted to look into maximizing the use of the mobo.

Are you getting any fans for your cooler??
O_o I didn't realize they would be needed? (First time I've even thought about extra cooling for the CPU)


Thanks panyan and olivier renault for the suggestions at work now, but will have proper look latter.

Do have a couple of questions about your builds.

The Windows 7 hard drive bundle, looks great and i was looking into the OEM version of windows 7 but was worried about it being able to use again if I re-build or have to replace the hard drive or something.

Was there a major problem with the case I chose? or are those just better bang for buck? (I do quite like the look of the Cooler Master HAF mind!). Just curious :)

Also if i go with the two drives to make up the 1TB would I be better off putting it in raid 0?


Oh another minor question i just seen while reading the forums else where, the wireless adapter should I go with the USB one or go for card?
 
Changed my mind again in case anyone wants to know :D

At work so quickly added in a new mobo from the last time I used the extension grab my whole basket :P

and thinking about going up to 2TB for the seagate hard drive



1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail *£239.99
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II TOP 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with FREE Batman: Arkham City PC game** *£179.99
1 x Asus P8Z68-V Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard [90-MIBGC0-G0AAY00Z]
1 x Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two (V3) Ultimate Gaming Case (with USB3.0 Support) - Black *£109.99
1 x Antec TruePower New Modular 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply *£85.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit *£68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) *£30.98
1 x OCZ Vertex 2 50GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-2VTX50G) *£64.99
1 x Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BluRay ROM DVDRW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) *£59.99
1 x Cooler Master V8 CPU Cooler (Socket 940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1366) *£54.98
2 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT51264BA160A) *£39.98 (£79.96)
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) *£29.99
1 x Asus Xonar DG 5.1 PCI Sound Card with built in Headphone Amp *£25.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps High-Gain Wireless-N USB Adapter (TL-WN822N) *£15.02
Total : £1,183.98 (includes shipping : £14.75).

 
Hi there, is this system mainly for gaming?

If so, I would strongly suggest swapping out the i7 2600K for a i5 2500K (these perform as well as each other in modern games) and use the money saved to buy a better graphics card - like a GTX 570 or HD 6950 2GB.

Also, I would suggest going for this motherboard - unless you need the Z68-specific features like SSD caching and Lucid Virtu.

For the cooler, I would suggest either going for this one, or if you want to push the boat out - this one. The coolermaster V8 isn't that great.

Also, if you are mainly gaming then you won't need anywhere near 16GB of RAM. I would suggest sticking with one 8GB kit.

Also, if you are playing online games then I would strongly suggest you ditch the wifi adapter in favour of a wired gigabit ethernet connection (or failing that a powerline kit like this) connecting your PC to your modem router.

I would also suggest a samsung F3 HDD or a Seagate 7200.12 over the Hitachi.

The rest of the spec looks great.
 
Hi there, is this system mainly for gaming?

If so, I would strongly suggest swapping out the i7 2600K for a i5 2500K (these perform as well as each other in modern games) and use the money saved to buy a better graphics card - like a GTX 570 or HD 6950 2GB.

Also, I would suggest going for this motherboard - unless you need the Z68-specific features like SSD caching and Lucid Virtu.

For the cooler, I would suggest either going for this one, or if you want to push the boat out - this one. The coolermaster V8 isn't that great.

Also, if you are mainly gaming then you won't need anywhere near 16GB of RAM. I would suggest sticking with one 8GB kit.

Also, if you are playing online games then I would strongly suggest you ditch the wifi adapter in favour of a wired gigabit ethernet connection, or failing that a powerline kit like this - connecting your PC to your modem router.

I would also suggest a samsung F3 HDD or a Seagate 7200.12 over the Hitachi.

The rest of the spec looks great.

I'd guess so it would mainly be for gaming but I am often going off and exploring things,so thought the i7 might come in useful so its use is debatable.

and yeah the reason i went for the Z68 board was for the SSD cache, figure I've got the SSD there for windows 7,it would be an elegant solution? :)

For RAM maybe that can be a future upgrade I guess, I think I am getting it more cos why the hell not at the moment.

Mhmm interesting i was suggested the coolermaster one was being good. (Plus i do love how it looks :P).

Thanks for the tip on the hard drive, i've been told by some people that Samsungs are not in it for the long haul mind?

Would love to go wired, but doubt my parents would let me wire up the house might look into the electric points more mind

Thanks :)
 
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and yeah the reason i went for the Z68 board was for the SSD cache, figure I've got the SSD there for windows 7,it would be an elegant solution? :)

Yes, putting windows (and your key applications) on the SSD is indeed an elegant solution as it will make your general performance much better. However, this isn't SSD caching - this is simply using the SSD as a boot drive.

SSD caching means using the SSD as a cache drive for a mechanical hard drive - so the mechanical drive has windows and the applications installed on it and files are transferred onto the SSD for rapid access. This gives better performance than a standard mechancial HDD and you can maintain a large disk - however it is no substite for running the SSD as a boot drive.

To be clear - running the SSD as a boot drive does not require a Z68 board or SSD caching technology. The P67 board I mentioned will work fine for running the SSD as the boot drive (just plug it into one of the 6Gbps SATA ports).

For RAM maybe that can be a future upgrade I guess, I think I am getting it more cos why the hell not at the moment.

Fair enuf

Mhmm interesting i was suggested the coolermaster one was being good. (Plus i do love how it looks :P).

This review compares the V8 against a thermalright ultra 120 extreme - an earlier version of the Venomous X.

The silver arrow in comparison is one of if not the best performing air cooler - and due to its low speed 140mm fans it is very quiet too.


Thanks for the tip on the hard drive, i've been told by some people that Samsungs are not in it for the long haul mind?

I believe they are no better or worse than any of the other main HDD brand - certainly with this generation of HDDs. The reason for the recommendation is the F3 is a really quick drive.


Would love to go wired, but doubt my parents would let me wire up the house might look into the electric points more mind

That's fair enuf - it often isn't easy to set up a wired connection. However the homeplug/powerline system is well worth going for - the pings are almost as good as ethernet and much better than wifi.
 
Yes, putting windows (and your key applications) on the SSD is indeed an elegant solution as it will make your general performance much better. However, this isn't SSD caching - this is simply using the SSD as a boot drive.

SSD caching means using the SSD as a cache drive for a mechanical hard drive - so the mechanical drive has windows and the applications installed on it and files are transferred onto the SSD for rapid access. This gives better performance than a standard mechancial HDD and you can maintain a large disk - however it is no substite for running the SSD as a boot drive.


To be clear - running the SSD as a boot drive does not require a Z68 board or SSD caching technology. The P67 board I mentioned will work fine for running the SSD as the boot drive (just plug it into one of the 6Gbps SATA ports).

Sorry yes I did get the difference, thanks for the explanation all the same. What I mean was the spare capacity left over from the OS to be used a cache? (I think this would work or does have to be a clean SSD?)

This review compares the V8 against a thermalright ultra 120 extreme - an earlier version of the Venomous X.

The silver arrow in comparison is one of if not the best performing air cooler - and due to its low speed 140mm fans it is very quiet too.

Ahh I see thanks, same price so may as well go for the better one :)

I believe they are no better or worse than any of the other main HDD brand - certainly with this generation of HDDs. The reason for the recommendation is the F3 is a really quick drive.




That's fair enuf - it often isn't easy to set up a wired connection. However the homeplug/powerline system is well worth going for - the pings are almost as good as ethernet and much better than wifi.

Ahh thanks, I thought as much really,maybe they just had a bad experience with one. I've noticed a few people are like that with brands who I been talking to.

heh yeah, I can look into networking my parents house better when I get the PC built :D

many thanks!
 
You have two different branded mechanical drives in that spec matey.

1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £46.99

You should really listen to the guy above about the silver arrow/noctua cooler in order to get a nice stable overclock for that futureproofing you were after.

Its a good graphics card, you could put the money saved on the extra drive into upgrading that cooler/increasing ssd size/upgrading sound card.
 
You have two different branded mechanical drives in that spec matey.

1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £46.99

You should really listen to the guy above about the silver arrow/noctua cooler in order to get a nice stable overclock for that futureproofing you were after.

Its a good graphics card, you could put the money saved on the extra drive into upgrading that cooler/increasing ssd size/upgrading sound card.

Ahh I was thinking about 2TB but it is something I was thinking about droping maybe going up to 128GB SSD instead, is there a problem using different branded hard drives?

I did look at the other one, I didn't really like "look" would you be able to change the fans? I know its not the most important thing in the world but well :P the v8 does look better and the other reason I am still going with the V8 was the silver arrow not being in stock still!

Thanks I do wish that the case in was black but thats quite a good bundle and the Watercooler seems like a great plan to put in actually, could be worth it :)

Thanks!
 
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