Everyone who has GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Please Read

Just to add my bit regarding this rubbish ram....
I just(yesterday)rebuilt my pc using an Abit KN9 Ultra and the 2Gb GeIL kit talked about here and had nothing but stress from the start.
Every bit of software(Everest and others)show it as last years ram and being 5-5-5-18 and not 4-4-4-12.
Whatever they did to it so that most boards(NOT)will boot I do not know but it's junk.
First of all the updated bios(20)sees it as 533 ram or something stupid and sets it to 5-5-5-18 2T.
Volts set to 1.8, no boot, loop de loop.....
then I set it to manual 4-4-4-12 and the bios reset it to 1T.....
I know my cpu(X2 5200+)cannot make full use of ram at 800Mhz but that's not what is gettin on me wick.
I got on to Overclockers and told them I want a refund.
"Have you tried one stick?", yep....
"Have you tried upping the voltage?", yep...
It's 1.8-2.3v............
wonder if 1.9 or 2.0v will work?
Anyway, had enough and gone direct to Crucial for the 2Gb Ballistix???
No more GeIL for me.
 
Im still over-joyed with my Geil.

Funkily enough, I bought 2x512MB Corsair thats perfectly good, but I also fell for the "Everyone Should get Geil" and so I bought 2x512MB... I upped that to 480FSB before I needed to do any tweaking at all, and I got myself another pair, all 4 sticks are capable of 500FSB.

I have now got myself 4 sticks of 1GB and even though I have been as far as 500FSB ( 3.5Ghz ) I am running a very basic 400FSB ( 2.8Ghz ) as in all honesty, I am finding that its already faster than I actually need it to be.

I sometimes wish that I had just followed the Corsair Path sometimes, as it would have been the cheaper / better option, but again, at the time, everyone was going on and on about how good the Geil was and that only stupid people get something else, and now it seems that its the other way round.

Sort of makes you realise that everyone talks BS now and then, so who do you believe?...And when?
 
FatRakoon said:
Sort of makes you realise that everyone talks BS now and then, so who do you believe?...And when?
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I believe everyone until experience teaches me otherwise ;) Generally once a BS'er, always a BS'er.
 
Nah, Id say maybe to assume that, is probably wrong.

Hell, Im wrong plenty of times... but that does not mean that just because Im wrong a few times, that I am always wrong.

I remember I was right ... Once... Maybe? LOL

Everyone is the same.

Its just that with the Geil RAM, there was a massive number of people saying that the Geil was the one to go for.... Now, I see some of those very same people saying that the Geil is useless... Some of those people were obviously BandWagon bandits, and were plainly mis-informed... It still does not mean that they will always BS everyone about things.

I myself have jumped on the Geil BandWagon, and Im happy with its performance and reliability and have absolutely no problems at all ( DS3 - F7 )
 
Bought 2 sets of GeIL 2GB (2 x 1 GByte) PC6400C4 800MHz, since they arrived I've had nothing but problems.

After 4 months of BSOD and general system stability I tried Memtest86.

3 of the 4 chips were bad. Two have been sent back as a first RMA.

I tested each chip that I hadn't sent back using Memtest86, one was definitely faulty the other after one pass looked OK. I guess I should have run the test for longer to perfmorm a more exhaustive test as 1 pass isn't really enough.

Today I was playing Medal of Honour for a couple of hours, system crashed and now can't get into XP and Memtest86 now checks the RAM as dud, so I have no RAM to run my machine.

So from Thursday to today one chip has degraded so much that it has gone from reporting no errors to 1000's.

I run the ASUS P5B Deluxe WiFi with an E6600.

If this RAM is so good, please explain the above.

System is set to defaults, apart from tweaks to set the correct settings for the RAM.
 
Obviously just the Geil isnt very compatible with ASUS Mobos then.

I find it very funny really how Everyone seems to blame GEIL for the RAM before they blame ASUS for the board and yet all I see is a sea of Asus owners havign the problems more than anything else?

Dont get me wrong here, please no, but I have

1 - DS3 with 4 x 1GB Geil @ 400 ( Been to 500 just fine )
1 x DS3 with 4 x 512MB @ Stock ( These sticks have been to 500 too! )
1 x Abit SG95 + 2x512MB @ Stock ( Not done anyhting with these )

Now, thats 6 sticks, 8 or which have gone to 500FSB, thats a full 25% over stock and they are flawless ( Touch wood )

Go back and check somethign out for us all here, but, of veryone who is saying the GEIL is bad RAM, find out what Boards they are... Most will be ASUS boards.

Besides, if you check out the specs of a lot of ASUS boards they dont actually list the Geil 1GB as compatible anyway, so trying to blame the RAM when ASUS themselves have not tested it, is totally unfair. Your Board for example, has only been tested with single sided 512MB Sticks, and even then, only one at a time... Not even been verified with 2 sticks. That to me, says that if ASUS dont want to bother testing that particular stick properly, then Asus themselves know there is some compatibility issues.

Again though... Dont get me wrong, but RAM is RAM and even the best RAM makers will make mistakes and will do off bad batches now and then. Its the nature of the beast.

I may just be the luckiest person here and have found the Geil RAM to be the most stable RAM I have ever used, or maybe its just that I dont have an Asus Mobo that takes DDR2... I got an Asus thats DDR ( A8N-SLI ) but not DDR2.
 
Im not too sure on whats going on here so perhaps someone could help me with trying to understand. I haven't read through all 9 pages as i really can't be bothered.

Im not an overclocker (yet) so i don't really know exactly whats going on here. I looked at the timings of my RAM and its 5-5-5-18, when it really should be 4-4-4-12. So should i change these settings manually myself in the BIOS or just leave them as they are?

Here's a screeny of the SPD thing in CPU-Z
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BlackDragon said:
So should i change these settings manually myself in the BIOS or just leave them as they are?
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The info given there is 100% the same as mine... Except the date.

Adjusting the memory timings might make the thing faster, but probably wont.

If it does, and oyu do manage to get it spot on right, and miraculously do have it stable... You will at best be looking at MICROSCOPICAMMOUNTS of % or even WHYBOTHER% over leaving it stock.

Leave it alone mate.

When you are more into clocking etc, then start messing around in there, but for now... no.
 
FatRakoon makes an excellent point, it could be the board that is causing the issue, seems too much of a coincidence that most of those reporting problems have boards from ASUS.

I was advised to buy this RAM by OCUK when I came to them for a system, I purchased the components separately but followed advice from the people who sell it. I had several conversations with them, they were very helpfull in helping choose what I wanted. At no point did compatibiliy be raised as an issue.

I started with 2 sticks to start with and added 2 sticks 4 to 6 weeks later, so the batches should be different.

If certain boards don't work with certain RAM and there is a compatability list surely they would only recommend RAM from that list to go with the chosen board?
 
I can confirm its an incompatability with GEIL and ASUS boards. My Commando would not overclock for poo or even run at stock with GEIL in my system, swapped the ram to Cellshocks and its 100%. Gave the GEIL to my mate and in his DQ6 the same sticks run 100% @ 900mhz 4-4-4-12. Whoever is to blame I care not, just people need to be aware of the incompatability. Its actually highlighted in the compatability table in ASUS motherboard manuals in the fact that GEIL is in fact not listed there.
 
ubern00b said:
I can confirm its an incompatability with GEIL and ASUS boards. My Commando would not overclock for poo or even run at stock with GEIL in my system, swapped the ram to Cellshocks and its 100%. Gave the GEIL to my mate and in his DQ6 the same sticks run 100% @ 900mhz 4-4-4-12. Whoever is to blame I care not, just people need to be aware of the incompatability. Its actually highlighted in the compatability table in ASUS motherboard manuals in the fact that GEIL is in fact not listed there.
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OCUK need to be aware of this. They're still selling this memory in ASUS bundles.
 
bfar said:
OCUK need to be aware of this. They're still selling this memory in ASUS bundles.
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I would definately agree - I have a P5B deluxe which I bought from ocers with this memory. Two sticks work fine, BUT as soon as i add two more for 4gb even under Vista 64 I have all sorts of problems - it just won't have it. I am now stuck in the position of:-

Do i try different memory & shell out yet more money Or

do I go for 2x2gb sticks and hope that solves the problem - either way it is going to be costly so I am reluctant to chance it.

the Asus bundles that ocers sell with the Geil ram were supposed to be tested and compatible so what went wrong?

Mark
 
it might be incompatible with Asus, but I have it in my DS3 and surprise surprise it BSOD'd on me last night after about 3 weeks or so of smooth running.

Basically, as soon as my exams finish, its making way for some OCZ or Crucial or Corsair or just anything that isn't Geil or made in the same factory as Geil!
 
OCUK are not the be-all and end-all of computer know-how.

The reason they have put that bundle together is for the price.

They saw they could do it cheap but never bothered to fully check it out.

If Asus themselves say the RAM isnt good for their boards, and Geil say their RAm isnt any good in Asus boards, then just because OCUK bundle them together, does not mean that Asus and Geil are liars... Its means OCUK are trying to cut corners.

There is nothign wrong with GEIL ram
There is nothing wrong with Asus Boards.

They just have some incompatibilities.
 
paniK said:
it might be incompatible with Asus, but I have it in my DS3 and surprise surprise it BSOD'd on me last night after about 3 weeks or so of smooth running.

Basically, as soon as my exams finish, its making way for some OCZ or Crucial or Corsair or just anything that isn't Geil or made in the same factory as Geil!
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Ok. If thats so, then you are entitled to a full refund.

I would, in that case, go for another make of course.

If my Geil started to play up on me, then I would be going for CORSAIR.

I have had too many issues with OCZ... Hang on... In the DFI and the ASUS boards... That name again... Asus.

The MSI Boards are my only near-flawless boards I got that seem to be 100% happy and stable no matter what RAM I use, but the DFI even moans betwee the Corsair XMS 4400 Platinum and the TwinX... The Asus wont run ANY of my OCZ RAM at all.
 
Oh dear... wish I had read this thread earlier.

Have been running my p5n-e with 2 x 1gb geil sticks for some months now without problems, but yesterday I decided to fork out on another 2 x 1gb sticks.

Hope I don't have all the crap that people are going on about here.

Wish me luck!
 
ffallic said:
Oh dear... wish I had read this thread earlier.

Have been running my p5n-e with 2 x 1gb geil sticks for some months now without problems, but yesterday I decided to fork out on another 2 x 1gb sticks.

Hope I don't have all the crap that people are going on about here.

Wish me luck!
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Hi,

Think you'll need all the luck you can get - see my earlier post in this thread.I ordered the extra 2Gb & wished i hadn't - nightmare.
 
Have replaced the four 1GB sticks of Geil that would not work on my Gigabyte DQ6 with 2 sticks of Corsair XMS 2GB. It works like a charm, no endless reboots, no registry corruption, no VISTA X64 crashes.

To be fair to the GEIL memory it does work if I had only two sticks in, but was a definate no no with four sticks.
 
So what is the best way to test if my system is stable with the memory or not?

Edit: Of course, about 2 seconds after typing this got BSOD.

That was running at 800MHz. Have just set memory to run at 667MHz.

Will see how long I last.
 
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