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Why is Sandy Bridge "not promising"?
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Soldato
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I can only think that thye would be reffering to the overclocking on the mainstream parts. Check out the article over at Anandtech and you will see it is a decent step forward at least on the mainstream parts.
Which was a good reason for people on forums like this to buy them.
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Good for me and my Mac Pro purchases 
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Yup. I don't buy cpu's based on their stock specs. I buy them based on what the reviewers and user can clock them to.
Oh well, if intel force me to buy AMD it won't be the first time.
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You know that really doesn't make me feel any better knowing that laptop owners will have CPU's that run less hot.
Sandy Bridge is just worrying via the lack of overclocking but the chipset annoys me as well - no PCI-E 3.0, no integrated USB 3 controller to name a couple of my bug bearers.
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Only for the very low end chipsets I would imagine.
if anything it will be easier for people to overclock as you just have to manage volts and the multiplier, no more messing with fsb but you do have to pay a premium for this which sucks.
i wouldnt mind if i could do 4.5ghz on a sandy bridge mainstream part at all, oh and havent intel just backtracked and included usb 3.0? im in corect the only feature missing is pci-e 3.0.
i wouldnt mind if i could do 4.5ghz on a sandy bridge mainstream part at all, oh and havent intel just backtracked and included usb 3.0? im in corect the only feature missing is pci-e 3.0.
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To be honest, we don't really know exactly
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I can't quite remember but Intel have done something rather daft with the chipsets aswell, though I've forgotten what it was.
Its faster than the current chips but not by much in many things, its essentially no faster for gaming at all, and we'll have to see how it shapes up closer to launch and when more forum overclocking types get their hands on them but if say a 3Ghz quad core is £200, and the overclocking version is £300 while the non overclocking version won't overclock at all it might make for some very expensive and very poor value for money setups.
Bulldozer is really shaping up to be a very VERY interesting chip, should be quite a lot faster than Phemon's, probably faster than current i7's but not as fast as Sandybridge, however its being rumoured that the design of the Bulldozer, a slightly increased pipeline and 32nm process could mean we're in line for chips that could well launch at 4Ghz stock at the high end and could potentially be looking at 5Ghz overclocks on air. Its theoretical, but theres a very specific science behind the clock speeds limits on chips and its VERY deeply routed in the pipeline length and design of the chip.
So Bulldozer could end up faster in the end, on clock speed, with slightly lower IPC, but if you can get a nice 8 core bulldozer that does 5Ghz, and it will cost you £200, well, thats why early on Sandybridge doesn't look particularly appealing right now.
We might find at launch that they'll be well priced, overclocking versions will essentially cost the same, just to stop your Dell box users from overclocking their computers, that they overclock like mad, are crazy fast and its all good.
I think in terms of overclocking, and partially the excitement of new tech, frankly Bulldozer is a monumental leap forward in AMD architecture, while Sandy bridge well, its already been seen, we have some numbers, its a rather expected and "normal" step forward for a cpu architecture. In terms of tech geeks, new things, potential and the unknown, Bulldozer is infinately more interesting, at least till it launches, it might suck at that point
Its faster than the current chips but not by much in many things, its essentially no faster for gaming at all, and we'll have to see how it shapes up closer to launch and when more forum overclocking types get their hands on them but if say a 3Ghz quad core is £200, and the overclocking version is £300 while the non overclocking version won't overclock at all it might make for some very expensive and very poor value for money setups.
Bulldozer is really shaping up to be a very VERY interesting chip, should be quite a lot faster than Phemon's, probably faster than current i7's but not as fast as Sandybridge, however its being rumoured that the design of the Bulldozer, a slightly increased pipeline and 32nm process could mean we're in line for chips that could well launch at 4Ghz stock at the high end and could potentially be looking at 5Ghz overclocks on air. Its theoretical, but theres a very specific science behind the clock speeds limits on chips and its VERY deeply routed in the pipeline length and design of the chip.
So Bulldozer could end up faster in the end, on clock speed, with slightly lower IPC, but if you can get a nice 8 core bulldozer that does 5Ghz, and it will cost you £200, well, thats why early on Sandybridge doesn't look particularly appealing right now.
We might find at launch that they'll be well priced, overclocking versions will essentially cost the same, just to stop your Dell box users from overclocking their computers, that they overclock like mad, are crazy fast and its all good.
I think in terms of overclocking, and partially the excitement of new tech, frankly Bulldozer is a monumental leap forward in AMD architecture, while Sandy bridge well, its already been seen, we have some numbers, its a rather expected and "normal" step forward for a cpu architecture. In terms of tech geeks, new things, potential and the unknown, Bulldozer is infinately more interesting, at least till it launches, it might suck at that point
iirc there considering adding an external usb 3 controller to the reference mobo designs. allthough most manufacturers will probably include it anyway going by current 1156/1366/am3 designs
From what I've read (Currently trying to find the article) The 2011 CPUs, which are classed as "enthusiast" will remain "unlocked" (unsure if thats the correct use of the word) - most of them will be based on the current design of the hex-core 980X which is 32nm, just with less cores.
They've already said the best chip (for the near future) will be the 990X which is almost the same architecture just with more pins.
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No 990X will just be a speed bump of the current Gulftown chips and will sill be on the 1366 socket.
For Sandy Bridge info I would really recommend reading the article over at Anandtech.
I remember this too.