Uncapped ADSL Packages

Is it me, or are these disappearing like flys ?

i was going to sign up, and had been putting it off. I had a look round today, and F2S have stopped offering one, as have Zen. And Eclipse now has a 50gb cap during peak hours like nildram do.

is there any1 left offering a true "Unlimited" package ?

It cannot be done.
This is something which I mentioned well over a year ago - and of course I was laughed at, called numerous names and then accused of just scaring people.

The average monthly fee that an ISP collects from somebody just about covers around 8-10gb of BT core network bandwidth.
So any user using more than this amount per month is actually costing the ISP money.
At the moment there are plenty of "normal" users around who don't use anywhere near the 8-10gb of bandwidth so most ISP's can afford to have a cap above and beyond this.
The old theory of "For every bad user we've got 10 good ones" rings true.
However as people start abusing the no limit connections and downloading 24/7 ISP's are being forced to cap.
Even the big boys such as Zen are being forced to introduce caps - those that don't will either collapse as all the bad users will migrate in their direction or will soon find their business model will fail.

In fact as with dial-up there is only one ISP that currently don't cap AND have said in interview after interview they have no intention of introducing one and that is AOL.
Sure there are some around right now that don't have a cap - none of these have said that caps are not on the horizon.

it is financial suicide for an ISP to offer uncapped at 'home' type prices. If you factor in roughly £1 per GB on a BT central it doesn't take a genuis to spot that an above average user will cause an ISP to make a loss.

So, once again, the minority (heavy users) have spoiled it for the majority, but you can't blame the ISPs.

If you want truly uncapped, get a leased line or one of the higher business tariffs and then you will get a much clearer idea of how much bandwidth actually costs.

it'll be interesting to see if evolution are still around this time next year.....

Evolution DSL
Ace Internet

Both Unlimited

stoofa said:

In fact as with dial-up there is only one ISP that currently don't cap AND have said in interview after interview they have no intention of introducing one and that is AOL.

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I know that the 'light' users subsidise the 'heavy' users but I wonder how long AOL can offer these unlimited packages as surely the 'heavy' users will just migrate to AOL and this will affect the subsidy that is in place now.

I wonder if AOL will also have to start introducing caps in the near future if not how are they going to avoid making a loss

bulldog and telewest (cable) are still unlimited

multiplay dont have limits

marc2003 said:

it'll be interesting to see if evolution are still around this time next year.....

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LMAO - this one made me chuckle . Oh so true!

Then again, I know why Evolution offer a one month contract - so they can change it quickly if their users start to run their connections ragged!

AOL Broadband are not a business for widee women and orphans to depend on to clip their dividend coupons. Their business plan is rotton - in other words thems a livin of their assetts - otherwise arrived at.

ted34 said:

bulldog and telewest (cable) are still unlimited

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Because there's no ludicrous BT Centrals to buy. Same with LLU (though UK Online have a limit).

Capping doesn't get round the problem of significantly more demand than available bandwidth at peak times (while "packet prioritisation", a la Plusnet's Ellacoyas does to some extent), but ho hum.
Nor is it purely the 24/7 heavy users that are a problem at those times either.