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Rumours starting already - Nvidia Maxwell - upto 6140 cuda cores ;)

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http://wccftech.com/alleged-nvidia-...ions-unveiled-project-denver-maxwell-refresh/

IF it is even remotely true, I can see this going the same way as previous, 880 being the 3840 core unit and then a later card like the 980 and/or Titan2 being full fat version (depending on what AMD manage in response)

Interesting thing being that all units can be used for either SP or DP, returning Geforce cards to high performance stats for DP calcs that were missing from Kepler Geforce cards
 
While I never into speculation bandwagon, I will only point to four certain things.

a) It will come to an exuberant price, that most of us will not be able to afford.

b) No news about Mantle. If Nvidia tries to "keep face" going to die there, with the GTX780 their last mass sold GPU.

c) All is rumours, and haven't see the GPU yet, no matter a card. We talk here about 2014 which, covers a period of 13 months from now.

d) Every time Nvidia has a brand new kernel, comes with some serious caveats until gen 2. Fermi for example. For over two years rumour mill, and what came out was pathetic to say the least. At least the 290X doesn't burn that much power over a GTX780. The GTX480 was ridiculous compared to the rest of them.

Same with the 8800GTX. Came out as the best GPU to have for Crysis, which came a year later and had made the GPU looking crap and as a heat generator. On contrary the second gen G80s were far better. (9000 series).

And always take Nvidia rumours with a handload of salt. Pinch is not enough. :D
 
It will be a long time coming. Kepler is listed as 2012 on the slide and we only just took delivery of a full fat example.
 
It will be very expensive and Nvidia have not mentioned Mantle, so I will support the little guy and get a couple :D
 
The die would be massive even with 20nm

From everything I've managed to find out - seems likely they will do similiar to Kepler in that the "GTX680" type part (GTX780 replacement) will be closer to mid-range compared to the full fat core (would still be in the region of 40% faster than the Titan depending on final clock speed for traditional game rendering) and they are holding off the full fat for 16 or 14nm hybrid cores.
 
lol ^

Speculation at this stage is nothing but that. It's too far off to really care about.

:D Speculation is great though. I love a good rumor and I base all my hopes and dreams on them. Mantle I read the other day will be able to make the games run 2 to 3 times faster. :eek: That would be impressive and worth singing from the rooftops. BF4 with a minimum framerate of 201... Yes please :D:D

From everything I've managed to find out - seems likely they will do similiar to Kepler in that the "GTX680" type part (GTX780 replacement) will be closer to mid-range compared to the full fat core (would still be in the region of 40% faster than the Titan depending on final clock speed for traditional game rendering) and they are holding off the full fat for 16 or 14nm hybrid cores.

I did read some tiime back that 20nm would be for the high end and 28nm would be for mid to low but I can't see much more coming from 28nm in truth and suspect your info is more accurate than mine.
 
I did read some tiime back that 20nm would be for the high end and 28nm would be for mid to low but I can't see much more coming from 28nm in truth and suspect your info is more accurate than mine.

There was some rumours that for the first wave of Maxwell cards the low and mid-range tiers would be on 28nm and the "top tier" (think GTX680) on 20nm, no idea if theres any truth to it other than I've seen Charlie mention it a couple of times. (nVidia rebadging Kepler cards under the Maxwell naming convention probably rather than actual lower end Maxwell).
 
There was some rumours that for the first wave of Maxwell cards the low and mid-range tiers would be on 28nm and the "top tier" (think GTX680) on 20nm, no idea if theres any truth to it other than I've seen Charlie mention it a couple of times. (nVidia rebadging Kepler cards under the Maxwell naming convention probably rather than actual lower end Maxwell).

It kind of makes sense... first Maxwell parts are rumoured for very early 2014, so would have to be 28nm, Intel do the same thing remember, switch architecture on same size and then process shrink later, only with nvidias die shrink they also increase cuda core count as they have silicon space to play with

Die shrink and core change at the same time has been problematic for NVidia in the past, this would allow them to fine tune the architecture first, and then play with new process as a discrete issue (I say would, but if rumours are true then 20nm Maxwell must be nearly ready by now to be released when the rumours say)
 
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